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I guess cars really stick to the rules because they know they have to. Maybe we need to step up enforcement of scooter rules. Or introduce some rudimentary exam

I guess cars really stick to the rules because they know they have to. Maybe we need to step up enforcement of scooter rules. Or introduce some rudimentary exam+permit.

null_object 4y ago
> I guess cars really stick to the rules because they know they have to I’d love to know where you live, because it sounds like Arcadia. Where I live, at least, cars also ignore speed limits, don’t stop for pedestrians crossing, often cruise blithely through red lights, drive the wrong way on one-way streets… For a while (when I was still cycling to the office) I was doing my best to film or photograph this type of behavior - which was difficult when it was over in a couple of seconds. I got quite a few films of cars driving on cycle lanes and the wrong direction, with the intention of somehow reporting it. But in the end I realized it was just a waste of time. Anyways - at least I never find a car dumped in the forest. That’s something over scooters, I guess
- wffurr 4y ago
  >> at least I never find a car dumped in the forest https://google.com/search?q=abandoned+car+in+forest&tbm=isch https://google.com/search?q=abandoned+car+in+forest&tbm=isch
larrymyers 4y ago
Cars stick to the rules? There were 42,915 automobile related deaths in the US in 2021. Annoyances over scooters is new, so we all notice it and complain. The sheer volume of damage inflicted by people using private cars for transit has just become accepted as normal.
- luckylion 4y ago
  You should calculate deaths per weight*miles moved. If ten people are riding scooters and 300 million people are driving cars, you'd expect cars to have more deaths.
- rich_sasha 4y ago
  Well, it's not an absolute statement. But where I live I'd say 90%+ cars drive by the rules. Anyway, my point wasn't that cars are sticklers for rules, but that to the extent they do, it's because the consequences of non compliance are potentially severe. Drive on an escooter the wrong way with no lights at night through a red light, and hit a pedestrian? Get up and keep going.

I guess cars really stick to the rules because they know they have to. Maybe we need to step up enforcement of scooter rules. Or introduce some rudimentary exam+permit.

null_object 4y ago

> I guess cars really stick to the rules because they know they have to I’d love to know where you live, because it sounds like Arcadia. Where I live, at least, cars also ignore speed limits, don’t stop for pedestrians crossing, often cruise blithely through red lights, drive the wrong way on one-way streets… For a while (when I was still cycling to the office) I was doing my best to film or photograph this type of behavior - which was difficult when it was over in a couple of seconds. I got quite a few films of cars driving on cycle lanes and the wrong direction, with the intention of somehow reporting it. But in the end I realized it was just a waste of time. Anyways - at least I never find a car dumped in the forest. That’s something over scooters, I guess

wffurr 4y ago
>> at least I never find a car dumped in the forest https://google.com/search?q=abandoned+car+in+forest&tbm=isch https://google.com/search?q=abandoned+car+in+forest&tbm=isch

larrymyers 4y ago

Cars stick to the rules? There were 42,915 automobile related deaths in the US in 2021. Annoyances over scooters is new, so we all notice it and complain. The sheer volume of damage inflicted by people using private cars for transit has just become accepted as normal.

luckylion 4y ago
You should calculate deaths per weight*miles moved. If ten people are riding scooters and 300 million people are driving cars, you'd expect cars to have more deaths.
rich_sasha 4y ago
Well, it's not an absolute statement. But where I live I'd say 90%+ cars drive by the rules. Anyway, my point wasn't that cars are sticklers for rules, but that to the extent they do, it's because the consequences of non compliance are potentially severe. Drive on an escooter the wrong way with no lights at night through a red light, and hit a pedestrian? Get up and keep going.