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As someone who depends on oysters to stay functional in this world, I think this is abhorrent, and against all that nature intended. Are they going to add all

As someone who depends on oysters to stay functional in this world, I think this is abhorrent, and against all that nature intended. Are they going to add all the zinc, copper, and manganese that are in oysters? Or the omega 3’s? You all think there’s no consequences to just shifting the world population to plants instead of meat. Well there is. Especially with seafood. There is a genetic basis for some people to eat more long chain PUFAs. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mnfr.202200351 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mnfr.202200351 So how many people are they actually making sicker and pretending like you’re making them healthier by eating this garbage you call food?

Klonoar 4y ago
So… just eat oysters. Plant based as a term gets conflated with veganism, but veganism is it’s own thing: a plant based world means we just depend less on those other sources, not that they go away entirely.
- FollowingTheDao 4y ago
  > So… just eat oysters. Yeah, I mean why think about anyone else but myself, right? People will believe these plant based oysters are "better for them" when in all likelihood they will be worse for their health.
  - Klonoar 4y ago
    Bluntly: your comment is entirely complaining about yourself, or at best people in your situation. Not everyone derives their entire health and wellness from oysters, and they're certainly not critical - I've known people who have gone their entire lives without consuming them.
ravenstine 4y ago
The problem is not so much the consequences themselves, but that the consequences may never be apparent to the average person. It's a cultural change that is occurring very slowly, and consequences to one's health usually don't manifest until later in life. You don't eat a Beyond Booger and suddenly experience systemic inflammation in a noticeable way. Even when a person's health is gradually failing, they can become accustomed to being obese, lethargic, diabetic, and so on. Even if they go to a doctor, that doctor is unlikely to know anything about nutrition, so they will recommend a combination of contraindicated plant material and pills. The only hope we have is that future generations become hip to things like PUFAs and antinutrients, and that preceding generations stuck believing that meat is bad will become less relevant. Maybe that can happen, but then younger generations still have to contend with the corporate-globalist charlatan complex telling them pure bullshit like meat being bad for the climate and enacting "meatless Mondays."
- FollowingTheDao 4y ago
  I literally can die happy knowing that someone else sees this as I do. I will add that it all started with capitalism and exploration moving countless peoples around the globe to place that were not genetically suited for them. Like the African Americans and it suddenly being appreciated that their Vitamin D levels are crushed by living in places like Detroit. Or with increased understand of what happens when the Inuit are subjected to a western diet adn how their genetics play a role. Yes, they woudl probably tell an Inuit to become vegan to protect their heart!

Klonoar 4y ago

So… just eat oysters. Plant based as a term gets conflated with veganism, but veganism is it’s own thing: a plant based world means we just depend less on those other sources, not that they go away entirely.

FollowingTheDao 4y ago
> So… just eat oysters. Yeah, I mean why think about anyone else but myself, right? People will believe these plant based oysters are "better for them" when in all likelihood they will be worse for their health.
- Klonoar 4y ago
  Bluntly: your comment is entirely complaining about yourself, or at best people in your situation. Not everyone derives their entire health and wellness from oysters, and they're certainly not critical - I've known people who have gone their entire lives without consuming them.

ravenstine 4y ago

The problem is not so much the consequences themselves, but that the consequences may never be apparent to the average person. It's a cultural change that is occurring very slowly, and consequences to one's health usually don't manifest until later in life. You don't eat a Beyond Booger and suddenly experience systemic inflammation in a noticeable way. Even when a person's health is gradually failing, they can become accustomed to being obese, lethargic, diabetic, and so on. Even if they go to a doctor, that doctor is unlikely to know anything about nutrition, so they will recommend a combination of contraindicated plant material and pills. The only hope we have is that future generations become hip to things like PUFAs and antinutrients, and that preceding generations stuck believing that meat is bad will become less relevant. Maybe that can happen, but then younger generations still have to contend with the corporate-globalist charlatan complex telling them pure bullshit like meat being bad for the climate and enacting "meatless Mondays."

FollowingTheDao 4y ago
I literally can die happy knowing that someone else sees this as I do. I will add that it all started with capitalism and exploration moving countless peoples around the globe to place that were not genetically suited for them. Like the African Americans and it suddenly being appreciated that their Vitamin D levels are crushed by living in places like Detroit. Or with increased understand of what happens when the Inuit are subjected to a western diet adn how their genetics play a role. Yes, they woudl probably tell an Inuit to become vegan to protect their heart!