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Stratification of American society is largely due to people fleeing violent and property crime, especially once they have children. There is considerable hyster

by User23 4y ago

Stratification of American society is largely due to people fleeing violent and property crime, especially once they have children. There is considerable hysteresis so it’s not as simple as lining up cost of living and crime stats, but a “nice neighborhood with good schools” will be considerably more expensive all else being equal.

PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
> Stratification of American society is largely due to people fleeing violent and property crime, especially once they have children. Claim made without evidence, and there is plenty of evidence that there are other larger factors at play.
- fidesomnes 4y ago
pessimizer 4y ago
> largely due to people fleeing violent and property crime, especially once they have children. If I have to guess, what I think you're actually talking about is 1) after middle-class suburban kids leave home to go to college, then 2) graduate and move into gentrifying areas to take internships/jobs in big cities, then 3) get married during that period in their 20s while their income is rising into six figures, and 4) they purchase their starter house in the latest gentrifying neighborhood, then 5) get pregnant and get a dog at the same time, so 6) muggings and property crimes in their new neighborhood turn them extremely reactionary, then 7) they move to a massive palace in the suburbs either shortly before or shortly after the kid pops out. i.e. the universal American experience.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  >i.e. the universal American experience. How is this consistent with #3? $100k incomes are 80th percentile. https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/
  - kleinsch 4y ago
    Median household is $70K, $100K is 62nd percentile. So if both partners are working, which is common before children, it’s fairly likely.
    - lotsofpulp 4y ago
      Eh, I would be willing to bet the steps outlined in pessimizer’s post are experienced by 20% of young adults (let’s say 25 to 35 years old). All others are renting or not moving into a “massive place” after their initial purchase, which itself was probably barely affordable.

by User23 4y ago

PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago

> Stratification of American society is largely due to people fleeing violent and property crime, especially once they have children. Claim made without evidence, and there is plenty of evidence that there are other larger factors at play.

fidesomnes 4y ago

pessimizer 4y ago

> largely due to people fleeing violent and property crime, especially once they have children. If I have to guess, what I think you're actually talking about is 1) after middle-class suburban kids leave home to go to college, then 2) graduate and move into gentrifying areas to take internships/jobs in big cities, then 3) get married during that period in their 20s while their income is rising into six figures, and 4) they purchase their starter house in the latest gentrifying neighborhood, then 5) get pregnant and get a dog at the same time, so 6) muggings and property crimes in their new neighborhood turn them extremely reactionary, then 7) they move to a massive palace in the suburbs either shortly before or shortly after the kid pops out. i.e. the universal American experience.

lotsofpulp 4y ago
>i.e. the universal American experience. How is this consistent with #3? $100k incomes are 80th percentile. https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/
- kleinsch 4y ago
  Median household is $70K, $100K is 62nd percentile. So if both partners are working, which is common before children, it’s fairly likely.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    Eh, I would be willing to bet the steps outlined in pessimizer’s post are experienced by 20% of young adults (let’s say 25 to 35 years old). All others are renting or not moving into a “massive place” after their initial purchase, which itself was probably barely affordable.