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I’m not sure you can adopt such a dismissive tone here. I mean, your whole premise is that you met a friend at a mutual friend’s dinner party. You seem to have

I’m not sure you can adopt such a dismissive tone here. I mean, your whole premise is that you met a friend at a mutual friend’s dinner party. You seem to have something of an “engine” of friends available that allow a preponderance of socialization. I think many of us in our 30s don’t even have that.

feteru 4y ago
Except almost anything you do can be the beginning of that engine. Joining sports team, hobbyist group for anything will lead you to meet people, through whom you either meet or hear about other events. Strong network effects once you get going but you do need to have time to show up consistently and in a good spot
- watwut 4y ago
  Many sports teams don't build all that much of friendship outside of training and competitions. They are acquitances with no other investment. The moment you get injured or sick, friendship is gone. Same goes for hobby groups.
  - recyclelater 4y ago
    This is a very cynical take and I would recommend some self reflection. I know for a fact you can make lifelong friends from shared interests. I’ve done it, I have friends who have done it. Maybe it’s harder for some but it is absolutely common.
    - watwut 4y ago
      I mean, I was member of sports teams. Sometimes lifelong friendship evolves, but it is not nearly automatic nor super frequent. Way more likely is that when people stop going for whatever reason, the relationship ends. Getting injured or sick or having new kid and less time or whatever all means you disappear.
      - recyclelater 4y ago
        This is a function of your skill and desire not a deficiency of the social activity
        watwut 4y ago
        What part of that observation is about a skill or desire? I mean, I am describing what I observed to happen to people around me. If too many of them are "not skilled enough", then maybe it is not just about individual failures.
powersnail 4y ago
That’s not my whole premise; just the latest example. If there’s currently nobody at all (outside work and family), go out with coworkers. Invite their friends. Go hiking or skiing or something. There are tons of activities out there.
- legerdemain 4y ago
  Remote work much? At my last job, everyone on my team lived at least 100 miles away.
  - powersnail 4y ago
    I have to admit that I’ve never myself been in such a position. Even with work-from-home, I’m still within driving distance to most my coworkers. And I can see how living so sparsely from each other makes socialization difficult. A friend of mine moved to a different country last year, and is in a similar situation: living and working far away from her team; no coworkers in her vicinity. So, now she mainly hang out with her new neighbors, and friends made from dancing class.
  - BigRedDog1669 4y ago
    Find a meetup on meetup.com. It doesn't have to be something you care too much about, it can be a singles meetup, some sport you know how to play, book club, etc. A lot of people are there mostly to do social stuff. Think of it as a way to meet people, but you have to work on deepening the friendships by asking them to do other stuff outside of the meetup after talking to them a few times.
    - legerdemain 4y ago
      I'm a member of 102 groups on Meetup. Not sports, because I have never played any sport, but many tech groups, reading groups, and hiking groups. No singles groups, because I'm not looking to date and I'm not in my 20s anymore (and don't feel like paying membership fees). I have been methodically taking turns trying all of their in-person events. Hiking groups are dominated by retirees who have trouble relating to me socially. I have not found a reading club that meets IRL. The "philosophy meetup" is a bunch of 25-year-old crypto bro edgelords. I keep going to tech meetups, some for over a year, but everyone at them either goes with coworkers or is really apathetic and alienated.

feteru 4y ago

Except almost anything you do can be the beginning of that engine. Joining sports team, hobbyist group for anything will lead you to meet people, through whom you either meet or hear about other events. Strong network effects once you get going but you do need to have time to show up consistently and in a good spot

watwut 4y ago
Many sports teams don't build all that much of friendship outside of training and competitions. They are acquitances with no other investment. The moment you get injured or sick, friendship is gone. Same goes for hobby groups.
- recyclelater 4y ago
  This is a very cynical take and I would recommend some self reflection. I know for a fact you can make lifelong friends from shared interests. I’ve done it, I have friends who have done it. Maybe it’s harder for some but it is absolutely common.
  - watwut 4y ago
    I mean, I was member of sports teams. Sometimes lifelong friendship evolves, but it is not nearly automatic nor super frequent. Way more likely is that when people stop going for whatever reason, the relationship ends. Getting injured or sick or having new kid and less time or whatever all means you disappear.
    - recyclelater 4y ago
      This is a function of your skill and desire not a deficiency of the social activity
      - watwut 4y ago
        What part of that observation is about a skill or desire? I mean, I am describing what I observed to happen to people around me. If too many of them are "not skilled enough", then maybe it is not just about individual failures.

powersnail 4y ago

That’s not my whole premise; just the latest example. If there’s currently nobody at all (outside work and family), go out with coworkers. Invite their friends. Go hiking or skiing or something. There are tons of activities out there.

legerdemain 4y ago
Remote work much? At my last job, everyone on my team lived at least 100 miles away.
- powersnail 4y ago
  I have to admit that I’ve never myself been in such a position. Even with work-from-home, I’m still within driving distance to most my coworkers. And I can see how living so sparsely from each other makes socialization difficult. A friend of mine moved to a different country last year, and is in a similar situation: living and working far away from her team; no coworkers in her vicinity. So, now she mainly hang out with her new neighbors, and friends made from dancing class.
- BigRedDog1669 4y ago
  Find a meetup on meetup.com. It doesn't have to be something you care too much about, it can be a singles meetup, some sport you know how to play, book club, etc. A lot of people are there mostly to do social stuff. Think of it as a way to meet people, but you have to work on deepening the friendships by asking them to do other stuff outside of the meetup after talking to them a few times.
  - legerdemain 4y ago
    I'm a member of 102 groups on Meetup. Not sports, because I have never played any sport, but many tech groups, reading groups, and hiking groups. No singles groups, because I'm not looking to date and I'm not in my 20s anymore (and don't feel like paying membership fees). I have been methodically taking turns trying all of their in-person events. Hiking groups are dominated by retirees who have trouble relating to me socially. I have not found a reading club that meets IRL. The "philosophy meetup" is a bunch of 25-year-old crypto bro edgelords. I keep going to tech meetups, some for over a year, but everyone at them either goes with coworkers or is really apathetic and alienated.