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New Swiss Study:Covid Shots Increase Risk of Myocarditis by X800 in Young Adults

24 points by sfusato 4y ago

sfusato 4y ago
* Prior to this study, there were no prospective data on post-vaccination myocardial lesions during vaccination with an mRNA vaccine. Only the most serious hospitalized myocarditis have been reported, mainly affecting men under 18 years of age. * The actual incidence of post-vaccination myocardial lesions is 2.8% vs 0.0035% of myocarditis in retrospective studies * Myocardial lesions affect women more — contrary to what is described in previous studies. * The possibility of repeated doses of vaccine in order to maintain effective vaccination coverage should lead to great caution regarding possible repeated myocardial lesions and their impact on possible cardiovascular complications. https://beckernews.com/new-swiss-study-covid-shots-increase-risk-of-myocarditis-by-800-times-in-young-adults-47674/ https://beckernews.com/new-swiss-study-covid-shots-increase-...
chiefalchemist 4y ago
> “In retrospective data, the main cardiac complication is myocarditis, which remains rare with an incidence of 0.0035% and mainly affects young men under 18 years of age.” Statistically speaking, is that percentage significant enough to be worth mentioning? That aside, as it goes on to say, they're only counting severe cases that required hospitalization. Finally, I don't believe it's mentioned whether the sample included those who got Covid or not. The vax doesn't prevent, only ideally mitigate (or so it is said). Perhaps some combination of factors increases myocarditis risks?
pmoriarty 4y ago
"People face a much higher risk of developing myocarditis from Covid infection than the vaccines, according to the Department of Health and Human Services. The risk of myocarditis from Covid is 100 times higher than developing the condition after Covid vaccination, according to a recent paper in Nature Reviews Cardiology."[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/04/though-rare-moderna-covid-vaccine-recipients-have-higher-risk-of-heart-inflammation-than-pfizer.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/04/though-rare-moderna-covid-va...
- pigeonhole123 4y ago
  In the article they address the bias present in some other studies
realpolice 4y ago
mrkramer 4y ago
Also when taking a shot, don't take in the left hand because left hand is closer to the heart than the right hand and therefore your chance of myocarditis increases.
- bobkazamakis 4y ago
  Do you keep your blood on your right and left separate?
  - doubled112 4y ago
    Like a well designed ABS pump?

24 points by sfusato 4y ago

* Prior to this study, there were no prospective data on post-vaccination myocardial lesions during vaccination with an mRNA vaccine. Only the most serious hospitalized myocarditis have been reported, mainly affecting men under 18 years of age. * The actual incidence of post-vaccination myocardial lesions is 2.8% vs 0.0035% of myocarditis in retrospective studies * Myocardial lesions affect women more — contrary to what is described in previous studies. * The possibility of repeated doses of vaccine in order to maintain effective vaccination coverage should lead to great caution regarding possible repeated myocardial lesions and their impact on possible cardiovascular complications. https://beckernews.com/new-swiss-study-covid-shots-increase-risk-of-myocarditis-by-800-times-in-young-adults-47674/ https://beckernews.com/new-swiss-study-covid-shots-increase-...

chiefalchemist 4y ago

> “In retrospective data, the main cardiac complication is myocarditis, which remains rare with an incidence of 0.0035% and mainly affects young men under 18 years of age.” Statistically speaking, is that percentage significant enough to be worth mentioning? That aside, as it goes on to say, they're only counting severe cases that required hospitalization. Finally, I don't believe it's mentioned whether the sample included those who got Covid or not. The vax doesn't prevent, only ideally mitigate (or so it is said). Perhaps some combination of factors increases myocarditis risks?

pmoriarty 4y ago

"People face a much higher risk of developing myocarditis from Covid infection than the vaccines, according to the Department of Health and Human Services. The risk of myocarditis from Covid is 100 times higher than developing the condition after Covid vaccination, according to a recent paper in Nature Reviews Cardiology."[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/04/though-rare-moderna-covid-vaccine-recipients-have-higher-risk-of-heart-inflammation-than-pfizer.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/04/though-rare-moderna-covid-va...

pigeonhole123 4y ago
In the article they address the bias present in some other studies

realpolice 4y ago

mrkramer 4y ago

Also when taking a shot, don't take in the left hand because left hand is closer to the heart than the right hand and therefore your chance of myocarditis increases.

bobkazamakis 4y ago
Do you keep your blood on your right and left separate?
- doubled112 4y ago
  Like a well designed ABS pump?