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RIAA and DHS are hives of depraved piracy

51 points by llambda 15y ago

rasur 15y ago
Honestly, next we'll be accusing them of double-standards!
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tptacek 15y ago
Fascinating. Did you know also that many traffic cops are themselves degenerate reckless drivers? Next maybe we'll find out that some doctors smoke!
- Locke1689 15y ago
  Certainly a level of hypocrisy is present in all human beings but doctors smoking seems to be a bit out of place with the rest. Wouldn't regularly committing a crime in your day-to-day life preclude you from also being an effective police officer? That is, a doctor smoking doesn't have any real repercussions other than that they're not following their own advice. The law enforcement officer, however, violating the law seems to be not disobeying his own advice, but disobeying the rules that we as society have set forth. In effect, his actions impact his ability to act as an enforcer of the law. The doctor simply gives advice, the patient can always choose to ignore it with no external repercussions. By committing crimes, it seems that the officer is actually negligent in his duties and unfit for holding his office. By the way, this isn't a statement about the occurrence, merely a statement about what ought to be (i.e., is vs. ought). If you were simply saying that it's not uncommon for humans to be hypocritical, I completely agree with that.
  - pantaloons 15y ago
    More likely the takeaway is that this story is a crop of shit. Hypocrisy is not newsworthy, nor is an article based entirely on an appeal to hypocrisy worth reading.
    - Locke1689 15y ago
      Fair enough, I can agree with that. This angle has been played to death anyway.
- fleitz 15y ago
  It would seem to reason to me that given the positions advocated by DHS and the RIAA that it would be perfectly acceptable to take down both their domains (including email) and plaster it with a big warning label that it's been seized by the Citizens Commission to Investigate the DHS and might be returned sometime in the next year but the CCIDHS can't tell you why it was seized because all the evidence is secret. In a year they'll have their domain returned because the investigation turned up no evidence of wrong doing. If doing that based on the contents of some russian website seems insane then perhaps it is equally insane to put laws like SOPA on the books. Apathy towards police hypocrisy does not excuse the behavior.
adaml_623 15y ago
I've not looked at the website involved so maybe this idea doesn't work but... if you find an out of uniform cop in an illegal gambling den then there's a chance that they are there undercover as part of their job. (Disclaimer: I disagree with much of the behaviour of the RIAA)
- Locke1689 15y ago
  Only the rights holder would have the legal right to download a copy of the works, as far as I know. The RIAA certainly doesn't have the rights to movies so that's out of the question and it seems highly likely that actually downloading or uploading any of these works wouldn't be necessary for the police to investigate any crime.
boredguy8 15y ago
Please stop linking to secondary sources when they aren't adding substantially to the original article. This seems to be an especially common trend recently. https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-and-homeland-security-caught-downloading-torrents-111217/ https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-and-homeland-security-caught-d...

51 points by llambda 15y ago

rasur 15y ago

Honestly, next we'll be accusing them of double-standards!

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tptacek 15y ago

Fascinating. Did you know also that many traffic cops are themselves degenerate reckless drivers? Next maybe we'll find out that some doctors smoke!

Locke1689 15y ago
Certainly a level of hypocrisy is present in all human beings but doctors smoking seems to be a bit out of place with the rest. Wouldn't regularly committing a crime in your day-to-day life preclude you from also being an effective police officer? That is, a doctor smoking doesn't have any real repercussions other than that they're not following their own advice. The law enforcement officer, however, violating the law seems to be not disobeying his own advice, but disobeying the rules that we as society have set forth. In effect, his actions impact his ability to act as an enforcer of the law. The doctor simply gives advice, the patient can always choose to ignore it with no external repercussions. By committing crimes, it seems that the officer is actually negligent in his duties and unfit for holding his office. By the way, this isn't a statement about the occurrence, merely a statement about what ought to be (i.e., is vs. ought). If you were simply saying that it's not uncommon for humans to be hypocritical, I completely agree with that.
- pantaloons 15y ago
  More likely the takeaway is that this story is a crop of shit. Hypocrisy is not newsworthy, nor is an article based entirely on an appeal to hypocrisy worth reading.
  - Locke1689 15y ago
    Fair enough, I can agree with that. This angle has been played to death anyway.
fleitz 15y ago
It would seem to reason to me that given the positions advocated by DHS and the RIAA that it would be perfectly acceptable to take down both their domains (including email) and plaster it with a big warning label that it's been seized by the Citizens Commission to Investigate the DHS and might be returned sometime in the next year but the CCIDHS can't tell you why it was seized because all the evidence is secret. In a year they'll have their domain returned because the investigation turned up no evidence of wrong doing. If doing that based on the contents of some russian website seems insane then perhaps it is equally insane to put laws like SOPA on the books. Apathy towards police hypocrisy does not excuse the behavior.

adaml_623 15y ago

I've not looked at the website involved so maybe this idea doesn't work but... if you find an out of uniform cop in an illegal gambling den then there's a chance that they are there undercover as part of their job. (Disclaimer: I disagree with much of the behaviour of the RIAA)

Locke1689 15y ago
Only the rights holder would have the legal right to download a copy of the works, as far as I know. The RIAA certainly doesn't have the rights to movies so that's out of the question and it seems highly likely that actually downloading or uploading any of these works wouldn't be necessary for the police to investigate any crime.

boredguy8 15y ago

Please stop linking to secondary sources when they aren't adding substantially to the original article. This seems to be an especially common trend recently. https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-and-homeland-security-caught-downloading-torrents-111217/ https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-and-homeland-security-caught-d...