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Windows experience is worse and worse. On my Windows 10 company provided PC I found games installed remotely. In a professional PC! A friend of mine found Spoti

Windows experience is worse and worse. On my Windows 10 company provided PC I found games installed remotely. In a professional PC! A friend of mine found Spotify installed [1]. That's insane. [1] https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/09/28/spotify-app-is-automatically-getting-installed-on-windows-10-windows-11/ https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/09/28/spotify-app-is-auto...

brirec 4y ago
I’m not saying it makes it okay, but the “Professional for Workstations” edition does not have any sort of sponsored start menu items or auto-installs.
- lloydatkinson 4y ago
  Does workstation edition have the same dumb properties as LTSC such as "Visual Studio won't install because reasons" or any other restrictions?
  - vladvasiliu 4y ago
    Not that I know of. But it won't install on "normal" PCs, it requires "workstation-level" CPUs. If you install it on a regular PC, it will just revert to regular win 11 pro. I don't know if this changed with the 22h2 upgrade, but it's the behavior I'd noticed before.
    - temac 4y ago
      Im not completely sure about that given it includes a few additional features like refs.
    - brirec 4y ago
      That’s not the case at all, and never was. I remember when Microsoft gave out free upgrade licenses for Windows 10 Workstation when it first came out, and it’s just an upgrade. The weird CPU spec thing is that Microsoft doesn’t let you sell a high end desktop computer with “regular” Windows Pro, and requires instead that it comes with Workstation. But you can either version on any grade of CPU as long as it runs Windows in the first place
- rightbyte 4y ago
  My enterprise install had Candy crush pop up in the start menu. I thought I had installed a virus, but realized it was Windows itself.
jonathantf2 4y ago
Your company hasn't set it up properly then, there's an option to "disable consumer experiences" (https://admx.help/?Category=Windows_10_2016&Policy=Microsoft.Policies.CloudContent::DisableWindowsConsumerFeatures https://admx.help/?Category=Windows_10_2016&Policy=Microsoft...)
- temac 4y ago
  "This setting only applies to Enterprise and Education SKUs."
- AshamedCaptain 4y ago
  One of the companies I was in actually blocked the entire MS Store through policy, but this results in most of Windows 10 going batshit insane (e.g. the Settings app will not even allow you to change keyboard layouts, because to retrieve language files it must go to the MS Store).
  - josephcsible 4y ago
    That reminds me of when they made it impossible to get rid of IE by making it a hard dependency of most of the rest of the OS. Why won't they get in as much trouble for this as they did for that?
    - AshamedCaptain 4y ago
      What trouble ? (/sarcasm)
- josephcsible 4y ago
  So is Windows 10 Pro not meant for companies then? Because that option doesn't work on it.
c0nsumer 4y ago
Your company isn't managing the OS properly/normally then. They can stop all of this from being installed, but aren't. (Source: Windows OS admin/engineer for large company where we /do/ manage all of this.)
- josephcsible 4y ago
  Is your company big enough to be able to afford Windows 10 Enterprise instead only Windows 10 Pro? Because on the latter, you can't stop all of that from being installed.

brirec 4y ago

I’m not saying it makes it okay, but the “Professional for Workstations” edition does not have any sort of sponsored start menu items or auto-installs.

lloydatkinson 4y ago
Does workstation edition have the same dumb properties as LTSC such as "Visual Studio won't install because reasons" or any other restrictions?
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  Not that I know of. But it won't install on "normal" PCs, it requires "workstation-level" CPUs. If you install it on a regular PC, it will just revert to regular win 11 pro. I don't know if this changed with the 22h2 upgrade, but it's the behavior I'd noticed before.
  - temac 4y ago
    Im not completely sure about that given it includes a few additional features like refs.
  - brirec 4y ago
    That’s not the case at all, and never was. I remember when Microsoft gave out free upgrade licenses for Windows 10 Workstation when it first came out, and it’s just an upgrade. The weird CPU spec thing is that Microsoft doesn’t let you sell a high end desktop computer with “regular” Windows Pro, and requires instead that it comes with Workstation. But you can either version on any grade of CPU as long as it runs Windows in the first place
rightbyte 4y ago
My enterprise install had Candy crush pop up in the start menu. I thought I had installed a virus, but realized it was Windows itself.

jonathantf2 4y ago

Your company hasn't set it up properly then, there's an option to "disable consumer experiences" (https://admx.help/?Category=Windows_10_2016&Policy=Microsoft.Policies.CloudContent::DisableWindowsConsumerFeatures https://admx.help/?Category=Windows_10_2016&Policy=Microsoft...)

temac 4y ago
"This setting only applies to Enterprise and Education SKUs."
AshamedCaptain 4y ago
One of the companies I was in actually blocked the entire MS Store through policy, but this results in most of Windows 10 going batshit insane (e.g. the Settings app will not even allow you to change keyboard layouts, because to retrieve language files it must go to the MS Store).
- josephcsible 4y ago
  That reminds me of when they made it impossible to get rid of IE by making it a hard dependency of most of the rest of the OS. Why won't they get in as much trouble for this as they did for that?
  - AshamedCaptain 4y ago
    What trouble ? (/sarcasm)
josephcsible 4y ago
So is Windows 10 Pro not meant for companies then? Because that option doesn't work on it.

c0nsumer 4y ago

Your company isn't managing the OS properly/normally then. They can stop all of this from being installed, but aren't. (Source: Windows OS admin/engineer for large company where we /do/ manage all of this.)

josephcsible 4y ago
Is your company big enough to be able to afford Windows 10 Enterprise instead only Windows 10 Pro? Because on the latter, you can't stop all of that from being installed.