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Are you in China and able to load it? I can tell you that it doesn't load from at least one region. Ping tests are often misleading because datacenters have di

Are you in China and able to load it? I can tell you that it doesn't load from at least one region. Ping tests are often misleading because datacenters have different connectivity than residential IPs.

est 4y ago
You can test whereever you want, the point is "not a single western social network is permitted to operate in China" is factually false. Social networks are available if you aren't making "trouble" for the authorities. I am not trying to defend this or anything, the current state of affair is totally messed up, but still there are some global social networks exist in China. btw, even 4chan is accessible in China. Imagine that.
- computerfriend 4y ago
  Well, my only point is "[LinkedIn] works 100% well in China" is factually false.
  - est 4y ago
    If you want facts, linkedin.com still gets redirect to linkedin.cn(aka lingying.com) as of today here's the output of curl -sv https://linkedin.com https://linkedin.com > /dev/null * Trying 2620:1ec:21::14... * TCP_NODELAY set * Connected to linkedin.com (2620:1ec:21::14) port 443 (#0) < HTTP/1.1 302 Found < Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 09:51:33 GMT < Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 < Content-Language: en < X-Li-Fabric: prod-lor1 < Location: https://www.linkedin.cn/incareer/hp/ https://www.linkedin.cn/incareer/hp/ The bottom of the page says: ICP Filing Number: 14023203 ICP License Number: 150024 PSB Filing Number: 11030102010420 Human Resources Service License: 110401715069 Beijing LingYin Information Technology Co. Ltd Room 817, Floor 8, Building 18, No.1 Disheng North Street, Yizhuang District Customer Service Email: cs@lingying.com Customer Service Hotline: 4000106277 Report Email: jubao@lingying.com Microsoft forgot to shutdown "local version". So technically it's still 100% working well with all bells and whistles in China. So what's your argument this time?
    - computerfriend 4y ago
      Interesting that it connects (and sad that MS is doing IP-based redirects). I asked a friend in Shanghai and she said it didn't load, but don't think I can ask her to troubleshoot. > So what's your argument this time? Your past couple of comments have been weirdly aggressive. I don't have an agenda.
      - est 4y ago
        > she said it didn't load Networks in China are crappy in general, if your friend has some bad VPN setup I can assure it will mess up something like DNS? Or even worse, if she is using the App, the Linkedin.cn would likely to break API stuff with forced redirects (that's why I call it abomination) > been weirdly aggressive Because something WRONG is on the Internet? LOL. IDK man. https://xkcd.com/386/ https://xkcd.com/386/ I hate "tech jornalism" like the BBC one because most of them are bad. In this Linkedin case it was sophistecated enough that people can get inaccurate conclusions based on problems on the surface. But for HN audience I hope people would verify by themselves more.

est 4y ago

You can test whereever you want, the point is "not a single western social network is permitted to operate in China" is factually false. Social networks are available if you aren't making "trouble" for the authorities. I am not trying to defend this or anything, the current state of affair is totally messed up, but still there are some global social networks exist in China. btw, even 4chan is accessible in China. Imagine that.

computerfriend 4y ago
Well, my only point is "[LinkedIn] works 100% well in China" is factually false.
- est 4y ago
  If you want facts, linkedin.com still gets redirect to linkedin.cn(aka lingying.com) as of today here's the output of curl -sv https://linkedin.com https://linkedin.com > /dev/null * Trying 2620:1ec:21::14... * TCP_NODELAY set * Connected to linkedin.com (2620:1ec:21::14) port 443 (#0) < HTTP/1.1 302 Found < Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 09:51:33 GMT < Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 < Content-Language: en < X-Li-Fabric: prod-lor1 < Location: https://www.linkedin.cn/incareer/hp/ https://www.linkedin.cn/incareer/hp/ The bottom of the page says: ICP Filing Number: 14023203 ICP License Number: 150024 PSB Filing Number: 11030102010420 Human Resources Service License: 110401715069 Beijing LingYin Information Technology Co. Ltd Room 817, Floor 8, Building 18, No.1 Disheng North Street, Yizhuang District Customer Service Email: cs@lingying.com Customer Service Hotline: 4000106277 Report Email: jubao@lingying.com Microsoft forgot to shutdown "local version". So technically it's still 100% working well with all bells and whistles in China. So what's your argument this time?
  - computerfriend 4y ago
    Interesting that it connects (and sad that MS is doing IP-based redirects). I asked a friend in Shanghai and she said it didn't load, but don't think I can ask her to troubleshoot. > So what's your argument this time? Your past couple of comments have been weirdly aggressive. I don't have an agenda.
    - est 4y ago
      > she said it didn't load Networks in China are crappy in general, if your friend has some bad VPN setup I can assure it will mess up something like DNS? Or even worse, if she is using the App, the Linkedin.cn would likely to break API stuff with forced redirects (that's why I call it abomination) > been weirdly aggressive Because something WRONG is on the Internet? LOL. IDK man. https://xkcd.com/386/ https://xkcd.com/386/ I hate "tech jornalism" like the BBC one because most of them are bad. In this Linkedin case it was sophistecated enough that people can get inaccurate conclusions based on problems on the surface. But for HN audience I hope people would verify by themselves more.