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I remember Green Day doing a local show where you had to pay cash at the door. This seems to address botting, though scalping organizations can still pay peopl

I remember Green Day doing a local show where you had to pay cash at the door. This seems to address botting, though scalping organizations can still pay people to stand in line (and presumably take a cut when they are paid to give up their spots.) Personally I think this approach helps out kids who have time to wait in line but don't necessarily have the money to pay huge markups and fees from the secondary market.

malermeister 4y ago
To prevent scalping, one could just write the name of the person on the physical ticket at purchase time and then check ID at the entrance.
- judge2020 4y ago
  Indeed, maybe with a more bulletproof implementation though (eg. you must show the same driver's license, enforced via matching the pdf417 on the back at purchase and entry)
pclmulqdq 4y ago
The simple solution to getting fans rather than grifters is to make the tickets cost something other than money. Time is a nice obvious cost element to add. If only we could channel that time more productively (and in a more palatable way) than having people wait in line.
- udia 4y ago
  How would you measure/trade time? Other than with the approximation of using money.
- hunter2_ 4y ago
  Sounds analogous to mining cryptocurrency with proof-of-work.
- culturedsystems 4y ago
  Taylor Swift did do something a bit like this this for a previous tour - you could get early access to the ticket sales by doing various kinds of fan activities, including buying physical copies of her records, watching videos, and posting on social media [1]. People were kind of mad about it, although I think in part that was because the "fan activities" that gave you the best chance to get tickets were the ones that also involved buying things. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/aug/31/bad-blood-is-taylor-swifts-verified-fan-system-a-way-to-reward-followers-or-rip-them-off https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/aug/31/bad-blood-is-t...

malermeister 4y ago

To prevent scalping, one could just write the name of the person on the physical ticket at purchase time and then check ID at the entrance.

judge2020 4y ago
Indeed, maybe with a more bulletproof implementation though (eg. you must show the same driver's license, enforced via matching the pdf417 on the back at purchase and entry)

pclmulqdq 4y ago

The simple solution to getting fans rather than grifters is to make the tickets cost something other than money. Time is a nice obvious cost element to add. If only we could channel that time more productively (and in a more palatable way) than having people wait in line.

udia 4y ago
How would you measure/trade time? Other than with the approximation of using money.
hunter2_ 4y ago
Sounds analogous to mining cryptocurrency with proof-of-work.
culturedsystems 4y ago
Taylor Swift did do something a bit like this this for a previous tour - you could get early access to the ticket sales by doing various kinds of fan activities, including buying physical copies of her records, watching videos, and posting on social media [1]. People were kind of mad about it, although I think in part that was because the "fan activities" that gave you the best chance to get tickets were the ones that also involved buying things. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/aug/31/bad-blood-is-taylor-swifts-verified-fan-system-a-way-to-reward-followers-or-rip-them-off https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/aug/31/bad-blood-is-t...