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Recently I went to see PJ with a friend. I had the tickets but I was going to be late so tried to transfer one ticket. Nope, not allowed. Both of us had to be t

by ssttoo 4y ago

Recently I went to see PJ with a friend. I had the tickets but I was going to be late so tried to transfer one ticket. Nope, not allowed. Both of us had to be there with my app. If I wanted to sell it I can but not to a person. I can just release it back at the original price and no fees. So PJ are still fighting the good fight and TM plays along. Unfortunately most artists don’t have PJ’s influence, so probably not an option for everyone to set the rules.

musicale 4y ago
I think I can live with the approach of banning transfers but still offering refunds. Seems like it would make deter scalpers since they'd have to show up at the concert or provide you with a fake ID which might not work.
- de6u99er 4y ago
  Yeah, screw scalpers!
  - izacus 4y ago
    It just replaces one scalper with another. Why the heck do you want to allow TM to double scalp you with fees just to give a ticket to your friend or family?
- darkwater 4y ago
  And TM can get twice the commission!
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pythonaut_16 4y ago
What about a system where only some fraction of the ticket sale has to present matching ID? Example 1: Limit of 6 tickets per purchase. I buy 6 tickets, I invite 5 friends. I show ID at the door and it doesn't matter which 5 friends I bring with me. Example 2: Same deal, but instead we're allowed 1 "flex" ticket in case someone backs out. Or some proportion allowed as flex. Obviously this still allows scalping, but it seems less attractive for a scalper to have to attend with the people they're scalping to. Especially if you make 50% of the group show ID.
- judge2020 4y ago
  > Example 1 This is how it works, only the primary purchaser has to show id. You can bring anyone in but you have to show up together, so if you do pay a scalper/reseller then they're at least also a PJ fan and you'll be walking in together. > Example 2 With the PJ tickets, you actually can sell them, but you just get a refund and they're released back into the ticket pool on ticketmaster.
glitcher 4y ago
Curious how was the show? Had you seen them previously and if so how did it compare?
pbreit 4y ago
The transfer limitation is specifically to mitigate scalping. What would you prefer?

by ssttoo 4y ago

musicale 4y ago

I think I can live with the approach of banning transfers but still offering refunds. Seems like it would make deter scalpers since they'd have to show up at the concert or provide you with a fake ID which might not work.

de6u99er 4y ago
Yeah, screw scalpers!
- izacus 4y ago
  It just replaces one scalper with another. Why the heck do you want to allow TM to double scalp you with fees just to give a ticket to your friend or family?
darkwater 4y ago
And TM can get twice the commission!

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pythonaut_16 4y ago

What about a system where only some fraction of the ticket sale has to present matching ID? Example 1: Limit of 6 tickets per purchase. I buy 6 tickets, I invite 5 friends. I show ID at the door and it doesn't matter which 5 friends I bring with me. Example 2: Same deal, but instead we're allowed 1 "flex" ticket in case someone backs out. Or some proportion allowed as flex. Obviously this still allows scalping, but it seems less attractive for a scalper to have to attend with the people they're scalping to. Especially if you make 50% of the group show ID.

judge2020 4y ago
> Example 1 This is how it works, only the primary purchaser has to show id. You can bring anyone in but you have to show up together, so if you do pay a scalper/reseller then they're at least also a PJ fan and you'll be walking in together. > Example 2 With the PJ tickets, you actually can sell them, but you just get a refund and they're released back into the ticket pool on ticketmaster.

glitcher 4y ago

Curious how was the show? Had you seen them previously and if so how did it compare?

pbreit 4y ago

The transfer limitation is specifically to mitigate scalping. What would you prefer?