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> long sentence for Ms. Holmes was important to “deter future start-up fraud schemes” That is not how justice works. Each case must be taken by itself. So gros
by andirk 4y ago
> long sentence for Ms. Holmes was important to “deter future start-up fraud schemes”
That is not how justice works. Each case must be taken by itself. So gross how people throw around this "sends a message!" bullshit so flippantly when it clearly means "the punishment will not fit the crime as we have added a bunch on to scare other people".
- s1artibartfast 4y agoDeterrence is a long accepted part of sentencing in the US. You might not like it, clearly how punishment works. Get a fine for speeding or littering and it will have no relation to the damage you did.
- andirk 4y agoDeterrence is seeing justice in action. All sentencing, like speeding and littering fines, are supposed to hurt _just enough_ to deter one from doing it, but not in excess. 8th Amendment "Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted." uses the word "excessive" twice. All of this is opinionated since quantifying justice is often pretty difficult. https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-8 https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-8
- s1artibartfast 4y agoSounds entirely compatible with sending a message. Message =/= excessive
- jen20 4y agoYou mean “long-established” not “long-accepted”.
- s1artibartfast 4y agoI agree that they are different but would argue that both apply