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Here it says Germans are paying 13.58 c/kWh. I was under the impression that most Germans are paying >30 c/kWh. Source below. Makes me question the rest of the

by llampx 4y ago

Here it says Germans are paying 13.58 c/kWh. I was under the impression that most Germans are paying >30 c/kWh. Source below. Makes me question the rest of the article. https://www.vattenfall.de/stromtarife?plz=10117&consumption=2500&place=Berlin&energyTypeSelected=electricity https://www.vattenfall.de/stromtarife?plz=10117&consumption=... I see the cheapest price as 33.12 c/kWh.

iudqnolq 4y ago
I don't see the number 33.12 on that page. While I can't read German I think that page is estimating the cost to a two-person household in Berlin, and it also seems to various include promotional offers? I don't think that's an appropriate source.
- maverwa 4y ago
  To be hones, promotional offers are a thing and a real problem in the market. It’s usually considered (at least under my peers) that changing your energy supplier often is worth it to collect all the „new customer bonus“ offers. But it’s not like that would could your bill in half. Maybe 10%?
- llampx 4y ago
  33.12c is the Grundversorgung (basic price) I put it here because even though I am not sure a new customer could get that price, it is still a lot more than what the article quotes as the German average price.
maverwa 4y ago
I am not sure what these prices represent for Germany but it’s certainly not what the average guy pays for their energy. That’s certainly above 0.30€/kWh. Last time I checked for a new supplier (earlier this year) it was not easy to find something below 0.40€/kWh. Decided to stay with my current one that’s somewhere close to 38c Maybe it’s the price on the energy market payed by the utilities? (Edit) according to this [0] even the wholesale price was at 360€/MWh [0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1267541/germany-monthly-wholesale-electricity-price/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1267541/germany-monthly-...

by llampx 4y ago

iudqnolq 4y ago

I don't see the number 33.12 on that page. While I can't read German I think that page is estimating the cost to a two-person household in Berlin, and it also seems to various include promotional offers? I don't think that's an appropriate source.

maverwa 4y ago
To be hones, promotional offers are a thing and a real problem in the market. It’s usually considered (at least under my peers) that changing your energy supplier often is worth it to collect all the „new customer bonus“ offers. But it’s not like that would could your bill in half. Maybe 10%?
llampx 4y ago
33.12c is the Grundversorgung (basic price) I put it here because even though I am not sure a new customer could get that price, it is still a lot more than what the article quotes as the German average price.

maverwa 4y ago

I am not sure what these prices represent for Germany but it’s certainly not what the average guy pays for their energy. That’s certainly above 0.30€/kWh. Last time I checked for a new supplier (earlier this year) it was not easy to find something below 0.40€/kWh. Decided to stay with my current one that’s somewhere close to 38c Maybe it’s the price on the energy market payed by the utilities? (Edit) according to this [0] even the wholesale price was at 360€/MWh [0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1267541/germany-monthly-wholesale-electricity-price/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1267541/germany-monthly-...