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I think getting pregnant was part of her plan to get away from prison. Well 11 years is still 11 years. Tough luck!
by mrkramer 4y ago
I think getting pregnant was part of her plan to get away from prison. Well 11 years is still 11 years. Tough luck!
- tptacek 4y agoI don't think it worked. Her ultimate sentence was higher than the PSR.
- yumraj 4y agoAnd she messed the life of 1 young child and 1 unborn baby just in the hope that it'll help.
- tptacek 4y agoAgain: her sentencing memorandum doesn't even seem to mention the kid. We should be careful about making stuff up to fit a narrative.
- metadat 4y agoThe court doesn't need to mention it to discreetly take it into account. Otherwise why wait until April to begin the sentence? Did they mention the pregnancy there? This is a legal, social, and political orchestration process, not a computational system.
- tptacek 4y agoThere are lots of reasons the BOP would prefer to avoid incarcerating pregnant women. Surrenders are usually 4-6 weeks out; with the holidays, that pushes out into January. She's not getting that much of a break.
- jjtheblunt 4y agoPerhaps a delay to give birth?
- tptacek 4y agoYes, that makes a lot of sense. Far-out surrender dates are not that unusual.
- yumraj 4y agoI believe you misunderstood my comment. If I was facing a jail time, I would NOT have kids till there is clarity. But I guess that is the difference between me and …
- kortilla 4y ago
- alasdair_ 4y agoIt’s a choice between have a child now or never have any children.
- vkou 4y agoWell, I'm glad that she did the thing that she wanted, at the cost of another human being getting to grow up without a mother.
- kortilla 4y agoNot a good look to argue whether a woman should have the right to reproduce. Her children will live better lives than 99% of the children on the planet despite not having their mother present until their pre-teen years.
- jinder 4y agoEr no - the loss of a mother is extremely traumatic to a child. It can lead to long term mental health issues and physical health issues.
- foldr 4y agoLots of kids suffer worse deprivations than having one parent in jail. Life is tough, but these kids probably have a better than average shot at a good life.
- twelve40 4y agohow did she mess those up? from what I hear, those kids will be taken care of better than most kids on this planet. Sure, not having the mother close is terrible, but who are we to judge that they would have been better off never born? And yes, she probably did this intentionally, but it really was her last chance to even have kids.
- rabite 4y agoPSRs aren't adversarial to the defendant. It was lower than the prosecutor's sentencing memorandum, which is what a judge usually follows.
- booleandilemma 4y agoI wonder if she'll talk to her child in a baby voice or if she'll continue to use her standard fake voice.
- dahdum 4y ago> I think getting pregnant was part of her plan to get away from prison. Well 11 years is still 11 years. Tough luck! I think it's more likely she was worried she wouldn't still be able to have children by the time she got of prison. Probably a nebulous mixture of reasons, but I can't believe it's just a desperate ploy for leniency. It's not unusual for people to really want children, regardless of their circumstances.