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I feel really bad for her children, I can't believe she had the gall to have them given this inevitability. I'm also of the mind that people shouldn't go to pr

I feel really bad for her children, I can't believe she had the gall to have them given this inevitability. I'm also of the mind that people shouldn't go to prison for non-violent crime (some extreme form of probation seems more effective to me), but that's an entirely different story.

trentnix 4y ago
She had children specifically hoping it would help her avoid harsh punishment. She’s a manipulative sociopath…having children was more of the same.
- whyenot 4y ago
  I am not aware of any statement from her or those close to her that confirms your assertion. She is 38 years old. If she wants children, it's now or never. She might be a terrible person, but that doesn't change the realities of female biology.
  - trentnix 4y ago
    I’m not sure that analysis is any more flattering. She had children knowing she was at serious risk of significant incarceration. Pretty awful situation she’s created for innocent children.
- micromacrofoot 4y ago
  not the kids fault though
prepend 4y ago
I find it odd that she found love and married. It seems like a pretty big negative that someone would have to get over to meet and love someone who defrauded billions of dollars.
- finexplained 4y ago
  I mean, she's attractive, smart, pretty good genetics, clearly well connected. I don't find it that surprising.
  - moistly 4y ago
    Pretty good genetics, except for, you know, the part where she has a sociopath’s broken brain.
    - quonn 4y ago
      And are most of the people she‘s well-connected to not annoyed that she lost their money? And isn‘t attractive just stating the same as good genetics? And is she really that smart, given the fact that she first dropped out and then her company failed and now she was imprisoned and the company only „worked“ anyway because of fraud?
      - finexplained 4y ago
        > And are most of the people she‘s well-connected to not annoyed that she lost their money? Ya admittedly one would have to assess that and also make some estimate about how much her notoriety will positively or negatively affect her offsprings' outcomes. I tend to lean toward it being a net positive, since fame seems valuable almost regardless of how it's acquired these days. > And isn‘t attractive just stating the same as good genetics? It also includes height, medical history, longevity, intelligence, ambition/drive, work ethic. I admittedly don't know much about medical history, but I might be willing to gamble. > And is she really that smart, No she's not really that smart, I'd estimate 1-2 stddevs from the mean. In my opinion that's smart enough for a potential spouse with other positive attributes, particularly if you think that you're smarter still.
rqtwteye 4y ago
“people shouldn't go to prison for non-violent crime “ How do you deal with people like Madoff and other Ponzi operators? They ruin the lives of multiple people.
- micromacrofoot 4y ago
  a life of community service would be a good start, stick him in a studio apartment serving meals to the homeless 40 hours a week and he might wish for prison

trentnix 4y ago

She had children specifically hoping it would help her avoid harsh punishment. She’s a manipulative sociopath…having children was more of the same.

whyenot 4y ago
I am not aware of any statement from her or those close to her that confirms your assertion. She is 38 years old. If she wants children, it's now or never. She might be a terrible person, but that doesn't change the realities of female biology.
- trentnix 4y ago
  I’m not sure that analysis is any more flattering. She had children knowing she was at serious risk of significant incarceration. Pretty awful situation she’s created for innocent children.
micromacrofoot 4y ago
not the kids fault though

prepend 4y ago

I find it odd that she found love and married. It seems like a pretty big negative that someone would have to get over to meet and love someone who defrauded billions of dollars.

finexplained 4y ago
I mean, she's attractive, smart, pretty good genetics, clearly well connected. I don't find it that surprising.
- moistly 4y ago
  Pretty good genetics, except for, you know, the part where she has a sociopath’s broken brain.
  - quonn 4y ago
    And are most of the people she‘s well-connected to not annoyed that she lost their money? And isn‘t attractive just stating the same as good genetics? And is she really that smart, given the fact that she first dropped out and then her company failed and now she was imprisoned and the company only „worked“ anyway because of fraud?
    - finexplained 4y ago
      > And are most of the people she‘s well-connected to not annoyed that she lost their money? Ya admittedly one would have to assess that and also make some estimate about how much her notoriety will positively or negatively affect her offsprings' outcomes. I tend to lean toward it being a net positive, since fame seems valuable almost regardless of how it's acquired these days. > And isn‘t attractive just stating the same as good genetics? It also includes height, medical history, longevity, intelligence, ambition/drive, work ethic. I admittedly don't know much about medical history, but I might be willing to gamble. > And is she really that smart, No she's not really that smart, I'd estimate 1-2 stddevs from the mean. In my opinion that's smart enough for a potential spouse with other positive attributes, particularly if you think that you're smarter still.

rqtwteye 4y ago

“people shouldn't go to prison for non-violent crime “ How do you deal with people like Madoff and other Ponzi operators? They ruin the lives of multiple people.

micromacrofoot 4y ago
a life of community service would be a good start, stick him in a studio apartment serving meals to the homeless 40 hours a week and he might wish for prison