I argued with one of my friends about exactly this point. He said that web development is great, that the HTML is semantics, CSS is style, javascript is everyth

I argued with one of my friends about exactly this point. He said that web development is great, that the HTML is semantics, CSS is style, javascript is everything active, everything neatly in their own files. What I said is - look at ANY of top100 Alexa websites and show me ONE where style, semantics and action is not mangled together in one big chaos, where HTML is just semantics and not DIVs put inside each other in a hierarchy that doesn't follow semantic logic, but visual logic (with divs classes "UP", "upper_menu" etc), where javascript sits neatly in its file instead being all over the place. I don't remember the outcome of the debate, because we then proceeded to talk about TV shows.