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This shouldn't be here. There's a new programming language out every day. I hope Zidie is successful but posting an incomplete website with most pages having so

This shouldn't be here. There's a new programming language out every day. I hope Zidie is successful but posting an incomplete website with most pages having some sort of "coming soon"/"under construction" message isn't inspiring. I want to see it in the wild, I want tutorials and examples, and I want to be more confident that this actually will be updated in the future. Plus the video just showed some random coding with a soundtrack and was barely readable. None of this makes this project look very compelling or enticing. Plus, from the code I see, I don't see anything that makes it worth going through the extra step to compile it to PHP. It's pretty much PHP as it is already. I hate to be negative and I wish them the best but hyping this thing before its ready is doing them more harm than good.

raganwald 15y ago
HN is not a public relations firm, it's a sharing and discussion forum. Notoriety for an immature idea might be an unwelcome side-effect of being discussed, but asking HN to refrain from discussing new PLs before they're "ready" seems odd to me. Now, as to your reasons for thinking that this particular PL is neither compelling nor enticing... I agree with you. Even if it were ready for prime time, as it were, some indication as to why this idea/approach/implementation piques the intellectual curiosity would be helpful.
- billpatrianakos 15y ago
  Maybe I'm bad at communicating. I totally agree with your first paragraph. What I really meant by not ready is basically what you said in that very last sentence. This site basically says "new programming... Coming soon". Well that's not much to go on. There's so little information that there really isn't much to discuss. Dart is a work in progress but I think it's a great thing to submit here because it gives us all the information we'd need about a programming language. This is just a coming soon page for yet another language and all I can gather is that it's like acoffeeScript but for PHP?

raganwald 15y ago

HN is not a public relations firm, it's a sharing and discussion forum. Notoriety for an immature idea might be an unwelcome side-effect of being discussed, but asking HN to refrain from discussing new PLs before they're "ready" seems odd to me. Now, as to your reasons for thinking that this particular PL is neither compelling nor enticing... I agree with you. Even if it were ready for prime time, as it were, some indication as to why this idea/approach/implementation piques the intellectual curiosity would be helpful.

billpatrianakos 15y ago
Maybe I'm bad at communicating. I totally agree with your first paragraph. What I really meant by not ready is basically what you said in that very last sentence. This site basically says "new programming... Coming soon". Well that's not much to go on. There's so little information that there really isn't much to discuss. Dart is a work in progress but I think it's a great thing to submit here because it gives us all the information we'd need about a programming language. This is just a coming soon page for yet another language and all I can gather is that it's like acoffeeScript but for PHP?