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> A real dev can pick up a new language and syntax in a week ... So am I not a real developer because it took me longer than a week to get a hang of Haskell? H

• benmathes 15y ago
  There's a definite difference between "pick up the syntax" of a language that doesn't have (m)any new concepts to wrap your head around versus learning new concepts embedded in a language. Javascript has closures and functions-as-first-class-objects. Haskell has monads and all that jazz (I haven't used it yet). I'm guessing you didn't take months to learn the syntax of javascript, but to think in javascript. It's similar to the difference between being functional in a natural language versus being fluent in said language.
  • nxn 15y ago
    necro said pick up the language and syntax -- I took "the language" part to mean the concepts of the language outside of the explicitly mentioned syntax. With that said, I felt addressing his comment was necessary since writing idiomatic code is not something that should be expected from a weeks worth of experience in a language. In essence, I'm agreeing with everything you said, just wanted to clarify the reason for my post.
• flomo 15y ago
  "Pick up the syntax in a week" is a huge black flag in my book because it indicates the developer doesn't really understand why his paycheck shows up every 2 weeks. Expertise is learning an environment's vernacular, gotchas, and detailed ins-and-outs of the frameworks/apis. It has nothing to do with passing a Programming Language 101 class.
• cmiles74 15y ago
  It took me months to feel like I wasn't doing something dumb every time I coded in Clojure. There are exceptions to every rule!