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Thank you people for leaving this toxic place. This is the only way to teach the companies and idiot CEOs that this will not be tolerated. This helps every work

by arekxv 4y ago

Thank you people for leaving this toxic place. This is the only way to teach the companies and idiot CEOs that this will not be tolerated. This helps every worker down the line.

PM_me_your_math 4y ago
All Musk did was tell his employees that they are expected to work and work hard. That the culture of doing as little work as possible had ended because it was killing the company - a fair point considering Twitter was bleeding money and only had 2 profitable years in the last 10. The other eight saw losses of 500MM to 1.1BN. Twitter was already on the edge financially and even a layman could see the entire company needed to change. Musk telegraphed his intention to cut most of the workforce so this shouldn't be a surprise. His acquisition is playing out exactly like others. He will push and press until he finds the people worth keeping or are on-board with his vision and then fill gaps going forward. There are no shortage of people who do not share the smoothie-guzzling work-ethic of former twitter employees. Twitter has always been a toxic place. What else do you call an organization whose only output for the last 10 years were billion dollar write downs and global censorship? To say nothing of the trolls, spam, bots, and astroturfing. Where ping-pong is valued more than production, and employees take 2 hour post-lunch "relaxation" breaks in the middle of the day, a mere hour before they go home. Taking the CEO's suggestion of leaving if you weren't onboard with his vision is not sending a message. It is taking the CEO's suggestion of working someplace else. I'm sure in today's competitive environment, CEO's are climbing over themselves to pay $150k to $250k year to someone who does only 2 to 4 hours of real work per day. I can see Musk moving the company HQ to some other place where talent pools have a different perspective on work and work ethic. My bets are Raleigh, NC or Austin, TX.
- galdosdi 4y ago
  > CEO's are climbing over themselves to pay $150k to $250k year to someone who does only 2 to 4 hours of real work per day. Some or many of the resigned or fired Twitter engineers will be able to find work at over $250k per year, actually. That should be easy for anyone at the initial senior level. For that matter $150k is doable even for a mid level engineer at a mid-tier non-faang "boring" company these days. You sound out of touch with the US software labor market of today.
- busyant 4y ago
  I think you're reading a lot of what you want into that "Twitter 2.0" email. I mean, we're all reading into that email to some degree, but it struck me as all stick and no carrot. > ... we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. > Anyone who has not [replied 'yes'] by 5pm ET tomorrow (Thursday) will receive three months of severance. I think Musk is immensely talented and a great motivator. But not in this instance. I think he knows he's screwed up badly, but he reminds me of an angst ridden high schooler who is in trouble, but who is trying to walk the fine line of getting himself OUT OF trouble while still saving face in front of his friends by acting cool ("yeah, I just vaporized $44 billion. I'm cool with that. <blithely glances at his fingernails.> EVERYONE GET DOWN TO MY OFFICE WITH YOUR CODE AND PLEASE STAY IF YOU'RE ESSENTIAL") You know what would have been a message than the first one above? "... we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Those who can rise to the challenge will be handsomely compensated and you will have my undying gratitude." See? A little carrot thrown in with the stick.

by arekxv 4y ago

Thank you people for leaving this toxic place. This is the only way to teach the companies and idiot CEOs that this will not be tolerated. This helps every worker down the line.

PM_me_your_math 4y ago

All Musk did was tell his employees that they are expected to work and work hard. That the culture of doing as little work as possible had ended because it was killing the company - a fair point considering Twitter was bleeding money and only had 2 profitable years in the last 10. The other eight saw losses of 500MM to 1.1BN. Twitter was already on the edge financially and even a layman could see the entire company needed to change. Musk telegraphed his intention to cut most of the workforce so this shouldn't be a surprise. His acquisition is playing out exactly like others. He will push and press until he finds the people worth keeping or are on-board with his vision and then fill gaps going forward. There are no shortage of people who do not share the smoothie-guzzling work-ethic of former twitter employees. Twitter has always been a toxic place. What else do you call an organization whose only output for the last 10 years were billion dollar write downs and global censorship? To say nothing of the trolls, spam, bots, and astroturfing. Where ping-pong is valued more than production, and employees take 2 hour post-lunch "relaxation" breaks in the middle of the day, a mere hour before they go home. Taking the CEO's suggestion of leaving if you weren't onboard with his vision is not sending a message. It is taking the CEO's suggestion of working someplace else. I'm sure in today's competitive environment, CEO's are climbing over themselves to pay $150k to $250k year to someone who does only 2 to 4 hours of real work per day. I can see Musk moving the company HQ to some other place where talent pools have a different perspective on work and work ethic. My bets are Raleigh, NC or Austin, TX.

galdosdi 4y ago
> CEO's are climbing over themselves to pay $150k to $250k year to someone who does only 2 to 4 hours of real work per day. Some or many of the resigned or fired Twitter engineers will be able to find work at over $250k per year, actually. That should be easy for anyone at the initial senior level. For that matter $150k is doable even for a mid level engineer at a mid-tier non-faang "boring" company these days. You sound out of touch with the US software labor market of today.
busyant 4y ago
I think you're reading a lot of what you want into that "Twitter 2.0" email. I mean, we're all reading into that email to some degree, but it struck me as all stick and no carrot. > ... we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. > Anyone who has not [replied 'yes'] by 5pm ET tomorrow (Thursday) will receive three months of severance. I think Musk is immensely talented and a great motivator. But not in this instance. I think he knows he's screwed up badly, but he reminds me of an angst ridden high schooler who is in trouble, but who is trying to walk the fine line of getting himself OUT OF trouble while still saving face in front of his friends by acting cool ("yeah, I just vaporized $44 billion. I'm cool with that. <blithely glances at his fingernails.> EVERYONE GET DOWN TO MY OFFICE WITH YOUR CODE AND PLEASE STAY IF YOU'RE ESSENTIAL") You know what would have been a message than the first one above? "... we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Those who can rise to the challenge will be handsomely compensated and you will have my undying gratitude." See? A little carrot thrown in with the stick.