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They are locking a distinct ethnic minority in internment camps and sterilizing their women. That is a genocide. They are attempting to remove the Uyghur peopl

They are locking a distinct ethnic minority in internment camps and sterilizing their women. That is a genocide. They are attempting to remove the Uyghur people.

DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
It would be a lot easier to talk about this subject if it hadn't been so shamelessly exaggerated for propaganda purposes. The Chinese government has, by all appearances, carried out a harsh crackdown on what it views as separatism and religious extremism. It has forced large numbers of people to go through political indoctrination, based on suspicions of being sympathetic to the Uyghur separatist movement or of harboring fundamentalist religious beliefs. The Chinese government has also begun imposing the 3-child policy on Uyghur families. The 1-child policy used to only apply to the Han majority. It has been relaxed to 3 children, but is being applied more broadly. However, the Uyghur population continues to grow. The Uyghur language continues to be an official language in Xinjiang and it is one of the primary languages used to teach children in state schools. And as I said before, life expectancy and average incomes are increasing among Uyghurs. The Chinese government doesn't intend to "remove" the Uyghur people. It is trying to stamp out separatism, both by implementing harsh police methods and by pumping money into the region to improve living standards. This is not what a genocide looks like. That term is just propaganda in this case, meant to influence people who aren't at all familiar with the situation in Xinjiang.
unity1001 4y ago
Every single Muslim majority country sent ministers and parliamentarians there, invesigated for months, and have not found any such thing. And yet, the exact same set of countries who lied to entire world about nonexistent Iraqi WMDs are claiming it to be true. ... 100 year old atrocity propaganda. Nothing more different than how the British smeared the Germans by saying that they raped babies in Belgium. Get out.
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  Sorry, you mean some of the same countries who are extraditing Uyghurs to China? https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/08/middleeast/uyghur-arab-muslim-china-disappearances-cmd-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/08/middleeast/uyghur-arab-muslim... I realize I'm inconvenient for you and your party line. I plan on continuing to be so.
  - unity1001 4y ago
    > Sorry, you mean some of the same countries who are extraditing Uyghurs to China? Yeah, the same countries who extradite known terrorists to the country they committed their terrorist acts at. Much better than CIA's rendition flights that kidnapped whomever CIA wanted without even asking that country's government. > I realize I'm inconvenient for you and your party line. I should have apologized for disturbing your US State Dept. propaganda first...
    - lakomen 4y ago
      When someone plays the terrorist card and at the same time condemns the former Dubya Bush administration one has to question the validity of their accusations. And btw even if they were "terrorists" that doesn't legitimize genocide
      - DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
        The problem with that statement is that China isn't carrying out genocide. This would be the first "genocide" in history in which the targeted group continued to grow in size, and in which it saw its life expectancy, income and educational levels increase.
      - unity1001 4y ago
        There are actual terrorists on this world. There is actual democracy on this planet too. American establishment having usurped both terms and having hollowed them out in its discourse does not mean that they do not exist elsewhere. > genocide That genocide is as real as the Iraqi WMDs. Or democracy-loving Syrian 'freedom fighters'. Or the 'Libyan Opposition'.

They are locking a distinct ethnic minority in internment camps and sterilizing their women. That is a genocide. They are attempting to remove the Uyghur people.

DiogenesKynikos 4y ago

It would be a lot easier to talk about this subject if it hadn't been so shamelessly exaggerated for propaganda purposes. The Chinese government has, by all appearances, carried out a harsh crackdown on what it views as separatism and religious extremism. It has forced large numbers of people to go through political indoctrination, based on suspicions of being sympathetic to the Uyghur separatist movement or of harboring fundamentalist religious beliefs. The Chinese government has also begun imposing the 3-child policy on Uyghur families. The 1-child policy used to only apply to the Han majority. It has been relaxed to 3 children, but is being applied more broadly. However, the Uyghur population continues to grow. The Uyghur language continues to be an official language in Xinjiang and it is one of the primary languages used to teach children in state schools. And as I said before, life expectancy and average incomes are increasing among Uyghurs. The Chinese government doesn't intend to "remove" the Uyghur people. It is trying to stamp out separatism, both by implementing harsh police methods and by pumping money into the region to improve living standards. This is not what a genocide looks like. That term is just propaganda in this case, meant to influence people who aren't at all familiar with the situation in Xinjiang.

unity1001 4y ago

Every single Muslim majority country sent ministers and parliamentarians there, invesigated for months, and have not found any such thing. And yet, the exact same set of countries who lied to entire world about nonexistent Iraqi WMDs are claiming it to be true. ... 100 year old atrocity propaganda. Nothing more different than how the British smeared the Germans by saying that they raped babies in Belgium. Get out.

vorpalhex 4y ago
Sorry, you mean some of the same countries who are extraditing Uyghurs to China? https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/08/middleeast/uyghur-arab-muslim-china-disappearances-cmd-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/08/middleeast/uyghur-arab-muslim... I realize I'm inconvenient for you and your party line. I plan on continuing to be so.
- unity1001 4y ago
  > Sorry, you mean some of the same countries who are extraditing Uyghurs to China? Yeah, the same countries who extradite known terrorists to the country they committed their terrorist acts at. Much better than CIA's rendition flights that kidnapped whomever CIA wanted without even asking that country's government. > I realize I'm inconvenient for you and your party line. I should have apologized for disturbing your US State Dept. propaganda first...
  - lakomen 4y ago
    When someone plays the terrorist card and at the same time condemns the former Dubya Bush administration one has to question the validity of their accusations. And btw even if they were "terrorists" that doesn't legitimize genocide
    - DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
      The problem with that statement is that China isn't carrying out genocide. This would be the first "genocide" in history in which the targeted group continued to grow in size, and in which it saw its life expectancy, income and educational levels increase.
    - unity1001 4y ago
      There are actual terrorists on this world. There is actual democracy on this planet too. American establishment having usurped both terms and having hollowed them out in its discourse does not mean that they do not exist elsewhere. > genocide That genocide is as real as the Iraqi WMDs. Or democracy-loving Syrian 'freedom fighters'. Or the 'Libyan Opposition'.