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From my perspective, something seemed to happen with Musk roughly around 2015 or so. It seems like prior to that time, Musk was really indeed investing in some

From my perspective, something seemed to happen with Musk roughly around 2015 or so. It seems like prior to that time, Musk was really indeed investing in some visionary tech that actually injected a kick in the pants to some industries (electric cars, space). Nothing wrong IMHO with Tesla and SpaceX. I think the super-detractors miss just what an out-of-nowhere big deal the Roadster was. Since then, though, Musk has focused on a lot of misses that have spectacularly over-promised and/or undelivered. Neuralink seems to be based on over the top futurism and a lot of questionable promises considering current technology state (particularly considering the current overpromise of AI, with self-driving cars still way far out). Same with his Hyperloop concept. The Boring Company has so far been quite unimpressive, cars in a small one lane tunnel is not very innovative and does not seem to bring anything that existing AGT systems cover already. Then there's Twitter, where it seems there was no vision at all, and you half get the impression that he only bought it because he was miffed at the content moderation. Tesla in particular seems to be a missed opportunity with New Musk at the helm. It seems to me that to get to the next level, Tesla could use some care to iron out the QC issues... they are not known as super reliable cars at this point on certain aspects, but it does not seem like it is insurmountable to bring quality standards up to the top brands. Were I a Tesla investor, my concern would be that Musk's constant distractions with things like Twitter are truly going to hamper the efforts of his primary companies... and looking at the post-Twitter stock price of Tesla, it seems I'm not the only one with such a concern.

starik36 4y ago
> over-promised and/or undelivered How so? If anything, things that he promised had an over-optimistic timeline. He promised a reusable rocket that can land itself - and it did, late, but so far it's the only one that can do so. > his Hyperloop concept It's a concept - something he specifically said none of his companies would be implementing. > current overpromise of AI, with self-driving cars still way far out I was quite skeptical, however, the current state of self-driving is quite good. The vehicle requires practically no intervention. Still a long way to go, but I am super impressed by how far they've come. Check it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbYuuu0G9Ko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbYuuu0G9Ko > Tesla could use some care to iron out the QC issues I am sure, there is always room for improvement. So far, my wife's 2020 Model 3 has been reliable. No issues as yet.
KVFinn 4y ago
>From my perspective, something seemed to happen with Musk roughly around 2015 or so. Maybe he's always been this way but his profile was lower? The first thing that sticks out to me is the the submarine pedo-guy incident of 2018. Somehow he went from an eccentric inventor who I honestly believe was genuinely making a real effort on a longshot solution to "How dare you joke about my submarine!" a few days later. So weird.

starik36 4y ago

> over-promised and/or undelivered How so? If anything, things that he promised had an over-optimistic timeline. He promised a reusable rocket that can land itself - and it did, late, but so far it's the only one that can do so. > his Hyperloop concept It's a concept - something he specifically said none of his companies would be implementing. > current overpromise of AI, with self-driving cars still way far out I was quite skeptical, however, the current state of self-driving is quite good. The vehicle requires practically no intervention. Still a long way to go, but I am super impressed by how far they've come. Check it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbYuuu0G9Ko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbYuuu0G9Ko > Tesla could use some care to iron out the QC issues I am sure, there is always room for improvement. So far, my wife's 2020 Model 3 has been reliable. No issues as yet.

KVFinn 4y ago

>From my perspective, something seemed to happen with Musk roughly around 2015 or so. Maybe he's always been this way but his profile was lower? The first thing that sticks out to me is the the submarine pedo-guy incident of 2018. Somehow he went from an eccentric inventor who I honestly believe was genuinely making a real effort on a longshot solution to "How dare you joke about my submarine!" a few days later. So weird.