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The Zidie programming language

11 points by zephyrfalcon 15y ago

sanxiyn 15y ago
Is the implementation of Zidie open source?
- Mithrandir 15y ago
  According to the Downloads page, "The licensing of the product is under active design and development." Aside from the license, there's no code available either that I could find. Kinda disappointing.
desireco42 15y ago
I am afraid that I don't see advantage compared to php, at least not such that would warrant new language. And you left curly braces in :) if I wanted anything from php out, I would make it like coffeescript with python style indentation. I will check it out more but, it kind of leaves me cold so far. Sorry.
ntkachov 15y ago
When ever a new language is released I feel like it should come with a list along the lines of "Taken from C: Comments, semicolins Taken from C++: Classes Taken from <insert here> : weak typeing" or something of the like. Just so we know what were getting into.
toddmorey 15y ago
Please don't embed videos coding videos so small that you can't read the code. And please add some commentary rather than a techno track. I got no information at all from the video.
- Mithrandir 15y ago
  Wow, I hadn't watched the video before. 8 and a half minutes of techno music with small blurry text and no examples on the site is a lot more than annoying: it's a complete turnoff.
billpatrianakos 15y ago
This shouldn't be here. There's a new programming language out every day. I hope Zidie is successful but posting an incomplete website with most pages having some sort of "coming soon"/"under construction" message isn't inspiring. I want to see it in the wild, I want tutorials and examples, and I want to be more confident that this actually will be updated in the future. Plus the video just showed some random coding with a soundtrack and was barely readable. None of this makes this project look very compelling or enticing. Plus, from the code I see, I don't see anything that makes it worth going through the extra step to compile it to PHP. It's pretty much PHP as it is already. I hate to be negative and I wish them the best but hyping this thing before its ready is doing them more harm than good.
- raganwald 15y ago
  HN is not a public relations firm, it's a sharing and discussion forum. Notoriety for an immature idea might be an unwelcome side-effect of being discussed, but asking HN to refrain from discussing new PLs before they're "ready" seems odd to me. Now, as to your reasons for thinking that this particular PL is neither compelling nor enticing... I agree with you. Even if it were ready for prime time, as it were, some indication as to why this idea/approach/implementation piques the intellectual curiosity would be helpful.
  - billpatrianakos 15y ago
    Maybe I'm bad at communicating. I totally agree with your first paragraph. What I really meant by not ready is basically what you said in that very last sentence. This site basically says "new programming... Coming soon". Well that's not much to go on. There's so little information that there really isn't much to discuss. Dart is a work in progress but I think it's a great thing to submit here because it gives us all the information we'd need about a programming language. This is just a coming soon page for yet another language and all I can gather is that it's like acoffeeScript but for PHP?
jhuni 15y ago
Yet another Algol-based language. This is just what we need.
adrusi 15y ago
I usually like new programming languages, but from just the key features that they list on the front page, I thought "wtf, this is like java/c++ that compiles to PHP just to make it slower". The only advantage I can see is that it lets you write in a more java-like language and then run it on a free php-only server.

11 points by zephyrfalcon 15y ago

sanxiyn 15y ago

Is the implementation of Zidie open source?

Mithrandir 15y ago
According to the Downloads page, "The licensing of the product is under active design and development." Aside from the license, there's no code available either that I could find. Kinda disappointing.

desireco42 15y ago

I am afraid that I don't see advantage compared to php, at least not such that would warrant new language. And you left curly braces in :) if I wanted anything from php out, I would make it like coffeescript with python style indentation. I will check it out more but, it kind of leaves me cold so far. Sorry.

ntkachov 15y ago

When ever a new language is released I feel like it should come with a list along the lines of "Taken from C: Comments, semicolins Taken from C++: Classes Taken from <insert here> : weak typeing" or something of the like. Just so we know what were getting into.

toddmorey 15y ago

Please don't embed videos coding videos so small that you can't read the code. And please add some commentary rather than a techno track. I got no information at all from the video.

Mithrandir 15y ago
Wow, I hadn't watched the video before. 8 and a half minutes of techno music with small blurry text and no examples on the site is a lot more than annoying: it's a complete turnoff.

billpatrianakos 15y ago

This shouldn't be here. There's a new programming language out every day. I hope Zidie is successful but posting an incomplete website with most pages having some sort of "coming soon"/"under construction" message isn't inspiring. I want to see it in the wild, I want tutorials and examples, and I want to be more confident that this actually will be updated in the future. Plus the video just showed some random coding with a soundtrack and was barely readable. None of this makes this project look very compelling or enticing. Plus, from the code I see, I don't see anything that makes it worth going through the extra step to compile it to PHP. It's pretty much PHP as it is already. I hate to be negative and I wish them the best but hyping this thing before its ready is doing them more harm than good.

raganwald 15y ago
HN is not a public relations firm, it's a sharing and discussion forum. Notoriety for an immature idea might be an unwelcome side-effect of being discussed, but asking HN to refrain from discussing new PLs before they're "ready" seems odd to me. Now, as to your reasons for thinking that this particular PL is neither compelling nor enticing... I agree with you. Even if it were ready for prime time, as it were, some indication as to why this idea/approach/implementation piques the intellectual curiosity would be helpful.
- billpatrianakos 15y ago
  Maybe I'm bad at communicating. I totally agree with your first paragraph. What I really meant by not ready is basically what you said in that very last sentence. This site basically says "new programming... Coming soon". Well that's not much to go on. There's so little information that there really isn't much to discuss. Dart is a work in progress but I think it's a great thing to submit here because it gives us all the information we'd need about a programming language. This is just a coming soon page for yet another language and all I can gather is that it's like acoffeeScript but for PHP?

jhuni 15y ago

Yet another Algol-based language. This is just what we need.

adrusi 15y ago

I usually like new programming languages, but from just the key features that they list on the front page, I thought "wtf, this is like java/c++ that compiles to PHP just to make it slower". The only advantage I can see is that it lets you write in a more java-like language and then run it on a free php-only server.