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So not the world? Title is misleading.

feet 4y ago
>representatives from governments worldwide
ajkjk 4y ago
It's a totally valid synecdoche. "The world votes..." doesn't mean "every human on earth votes...", it means "a worldwide body votes...".
- orra 4y ago
  Quite, although even “every human on earth votes” isn’t the most literal interpretation: the planet becoming sentient and itself voting would be. Of course, that’s an absurd interpretation.
- krick 4y ago
  It is "a valid synecdoche" only as long as we accept that doublethink and newspeak are desirable. Sure, calling black — "white", dictatorship — "worldwide democracy" and so on… everyone will adjust. And by "will" I mean "already do and always did" — there's nothing new about this, it's just the "truths" we are supposed to believe in are what changes over the centuries, not the way societies work. Perhaps it's even true that there is no other way (which doesn't make me like it any more). So it's totally true that no one is actually mislead by this, but I absolutely understand those who try to pretend they are, and have a slight disdain for those who try to defend this bullshit.
  - ajkjk 4y ago
    I... uh... it's a normal phrase. Dunno know what to tell you. You're not gonna get a lot of takers on this being "bullshit". Feels like you're mad about something big and taking it out on random irrelevant things. There's maybe an argument to be made that using language which implies the legitimacy of organizations as presenting "all of us" is a sort of supremacist way to act, because it casually legitimizes whoever happens to be in power without questioning where they got that power or whether they earned or deserve it. But, like, it's a standards body. If the world didn't have one it would want to go and make one and then be back where we started. This isn't the interesting battlefield for that kind of point.
echelon 4y ago
I would only want qualified people and not laymen voting on this. It's technical, not social. It has little bearing on anyone's lived experiences apart from scientists and engineers.
yamtaddle 4y ago
Nobody is confused by this, except those who are trying to be.
- TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y ago
  I am not confused, nor trying to be. It is a factual statement.

feet 4y ago

>representatives from governments worldwide

It's a totally valid synecdoche. "The world votes..." doesn't mean "every human on earth votes...", it means "a worldwide body votes...".

orra 4y ago
Quite, although even “every human on earth votes” isn’t the most literal interpretation: the planet becoming sentient and itself voting would be. Of course, that’s an absurd interpretation.
krick 4y ago
It is "a valid synecdoche" only as long as we accept that doublethink and newspeak are desirable. Sure, calling black — "white", dictatorship — "worldwide democracy" and so on… everyone will adjust. And by "will" I mean "already do and always did" — there's nothing new about this, it's just the "truths" we are supposed to believe in are what changes over the centuries, not the way societies work. Perhaps it's even true that there is no other way (which doesn't make me like it any more). So it's totally true that no one is actually mislead by this, but I absolutely understand those who try to pretend they are, and have a slight disdain for those who try to defend this bullshit.
- ajkjk 4y ago
  I... uh... it's a normal phrase. Dunno know what to tell you. You're not gonna get a lot of takers on this being "bullshit". Feels like you're mad about something big and taking it out on random irrelevant things. There's maybe an argument to be made that using language which implies the legitimacy of organizations as presenting "all of us" is a sort of supremacist way to act, because it casually legitimizes whoever happens to be in power without questioning where they got that power or whether they earned or deserve it. But, like, it's a standards body. If the world didn't have one it would want to go and make one and then be back where we started. This isn't the interesting battlefield for that kind of point.

echelon 4y ago

I would only want qualified people and not laymen voting on this. It's technical, not social. It has little bearing on anyone's lived experiences apart from scientists and engineers.

yamtaddle 4y ago

Nobody is confused by this, except those who are trying to be.

TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y ago
I am not confused, nor trying to be. It is a factual statement.