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Working for one of Elon Musk's companies sounds brutal, but I can understand the appeal of burning hot and bright on something truly innovative. I would feel pr

Working for one of Elon Musk's companies sounds brutal, but I can understand the appeal of burning hot and bright on something truly innovative. I would feel proud and motivated to work like crazy on something like Starship, but this is Twitter. I suspect Musk's strategy of appealing to people who want to change the world and be on the bleeding edge of technology won't hold up the same way as it did for his other companies.

madeofpalk 4y ago
> on something truly innovative. like twitter? apparently elon's master plan is 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism?
- unity1001 4y ago
  > 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism What's wrong with 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism.
  - madeofpalk 4y ago
    Absolutely nothing! Early blogging was great! But doing what happened 20 years ago is hardly "truly innovative"
    - greenhearth 4y ago
      This is Elon Musk MO. He invents nothing, just repackages and markets - the electric car (the very first kind of car invented over a hundred years ago) and going to space in a rocket? These are his big things and people eat it up. Why?
  - chrstphrknwtn 4y ago
    Nothing, but it seems unlikely to make money.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    98% of it was/is just opinion articles. There's very little research or real information gathering involved.
- SkyMarshal 4y ago
  No, it's "X", the all-in-one-app he wanted to do back in the 2000s, and which WeChat is now. That's not a terrible idea if he can pull it off and make it profitable even despite the massive debt he loaded Twitter with to purchase it.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    See also: Compuserve, AOL, Facebook WeChat succeeds because it caters to a less mature market with a simple integrated product. American network service users have demonstrated repeatedly that they are OK with bundling products but less enthusiastic about bundled services.
    - kravens_last 4y ago
      WeChat succeeds because it's a state sponsored monopoly. It would not have existed in a free and mature market in any western capitalist style economy.
      - anigbrowl 4y ago
        I just gave 3 examples of products that succeeded brilliantly in a less mature market in western capitalist economies. WeChat might be an anachronism in 15 years just as AOL is today, although it continues to exist as a brand. Incidentally I just glanced at the AOL website to remind myself how it's doing, and their ad banner offers a service to reduce the amount of paper junk mail you receive by signing up for AOL's managed unsubscription service. Less Information Age and more Irony Age.
MarkMarine 4y ago
He was also offering them a chance to have options in clear growth companies that would make you financially secure after you put some time in. Twitter has no such promise, he is saying it might go into chapter 11, and he added all that debt. Why would you sign on to that, when on the backside you'll have options in a private company riddled with debt and no clear exit or growth path.
x0x0 4y ago
I suspect Elon wildly overestimates the attraction of working on Twitter. For Tesla, it was one of a handful of places in the world where you could work on electric cars. SpaceX was one of what -- maybe 3 places in the world? -- where you really could work on rockets. If either of those inspired you, Tesla and SpaceX are premier employers. If your interests are building large distributed systems, that has lots of choices.

madeofpalk 4y ago

> on something truly innovative. like twitter? apparently elon's master plan is 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism?

unity1001 4y ago
> 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism What's wrong with 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism.
- madeofpalk 4y ago
  Absolutely nothing! Early blogging was great! But doing what happened 20 years ago is hardly "truly innovative"
  - greenhearth 4y ago
    This is Elon Musk MO. He invents nothing, just repackages and markets - the electric car (the very first kind of car invented over a hundred years ago) and going to space in a rocket? These are his big things and people eat it up. Why?
- chrstphrknwtn 4y ago
  Nothing, but it seems unlikely to make money.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  98% of it was/is just opinion articles. There's very little research or real information gathering involved.
SkyMarshal 4y ago
No, it's "X", the all-in-one-app he wanted to do back in the 2000s, and which WeChat is now. That's not a terrible idea if he can pull it off and make it profitable even despite the massive debt he loaded Twitter with to purchase it.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  See also: Compuserve, AOL, Facebook WeChat succeeds because it caters to a less mature market with a simple integrated product. American network service users have demonstrated repeatedly that they are OK with bundling products but less enthusiastic about bundled services.
  - kravens_last 4y ago
    WeChat succeeds because it's a state sponsored monopoly. It would not have existed in a free and mature market in any western capitalist style economy.
    - anigbrowl 4y ago
      I just gave 3 examples of products that succeeded brilliantly in a less mature market in western capitalist economies. WeChat might be an anachronism in 15 years just as AOL is today, although it continues to exist as a brand. Incidentally I just glanced at the AOL website to remind myself how it's doing, and their ad banner offers a service to reduce the amount of paper junk mail you receive by signing up for AOL's managed unsubscription service. Less Information Age and more Irony Age.

MarkMarine 4y ago

He was also offering them a chance to have options in clear growth companies that would make you financially secure after you put some time in. Twitter has no such promise, he is saying it might go into chapter 11, and he added all that debt. Why would you sign on to that, when on the backside you'll have options in a private company riddled with debt and no clear exit or growth path.

x0x0 4y ago

I suspect Elon wildly overestimates the attraction of working on Twitter. For Tesla, it was one of a handful of places in the world where you could work on electric cars. SpaceX was one of what -- maybe 3 places in the world? -- where you really could work on rockets. If either of those inspired you, Tesla and SpaceX are premier employers. If your interests are building large distributed systems, that has lots of choices.