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He was not given immunity, he has de-facto immunity due to his position. Imagine if that didn't exist? Biden visits Qatar and gets arrested for dis-respecting

He was not given immunity, he has de-facto immunity due to his position. Imagine if that didn't exist? Biden visits Qatar and gets arrested for dis-respecting their leaders? I can see that all working out. The truth is, I doubt there would be much decent evidence that would hold up in Court. It's like Russians being murdered outside of Russia, "of course" Putin would have had to order it but "of course" wouldn't cut it in Court.

lotsofpulp 4y ago
>Imagine if that didn't exist? Biden visits Qatar and gets arrested for dis-respecting their leaders? I can see that all working out. I do not have a problem with that. If you want to be part of the civilized world, you have to act civilized. And if Qatar wants to arrest Biden for disrespect, then either Qatar’s leaders will find out what the US spends its military funds on, or US taxpayers will find out how much of a waste all those aircraft carriers were.
- stepbeek 4y ago
  Not sure that I prefer war to diplomatic immunity.
- dvt 4y ago
  This is a bad take, as it would make diplomacy a very precarious proposition (whereas its entire purpose is to be weak & non-committal). Diplomatic immunity is nothing new and in fact MBS doesn't even assert conduct-based immunity (he's using the even broader "head of state immunity").
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    Even if one side is using it to commit egregious criminal acts in the others’ country? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46676200 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46676200 I do not see how the people of the USA benefit from this arrangement.
    - dvt 4y ago
      > I do not see how the people of the USA benefit from this arrangement. Because you're shortsighted in your hatred for MBS. MBS can be deposed and hung in a public square (along with the entire royal family) for all I care, but that doesn't mean immunity isn't an important diplomatic tool.
    - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
      Iran
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- HDThoreaun 4y ago
  Almost as short sighted a take as Musk's views on free speech

lotsofpulp 4y ago

>Imagine if that didn't exist? Biden visits Qatar and gets arrested for dis-respecting their leaders? I can see that all working out. I do not have a problem with that. If you want to be part of the civilized world, you have to act civilized. And if Qatar wants to arrest Biden for disrespect, then either Qatar’s leaders will find out what the US spends its military funds on, or US taxpayers will find out how much of a waste all those aircraft carriers were.

stepbeek 4y ago
Not sure that I prefer war to diplomatic immunity.
dvt 4y ago
This is a bad take, as it would make diplomacy a very precarious proposition (whereas its entire purpose is to be weak & non-committal). Diplomatic immunity is nothing new and in fact MBS doesn't even assert conduct-based immunity (he's using the even broader "head of state immunity").
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  Even if one side is using it to commit egregious criminal acts in the others’ country? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46676200 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46676200 I do not see how the people of the USA benefit from this arrangement.
  - dvt 4y ago
    > I do not see how the people of the USA benefit from this arrangement. Because you're shortsighted in your hatred for MBS. MBS can be deposed and hung in a public square (along with the entire royal family) for all I care, but that doesn't mean immunity isn't an important diplomatic tool.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
    Iran
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
HDThoreaun 4y ago
Almost as short sighted a take as Musk's views on free speech