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That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is: Too many are making it.

by snvzz 4y ago

zxlk21e 4y ago
how are too many making it if none of them are making it?
- snvzz 4y ago
  >none of them are making it You do realize you're commenting on a story about Twitter that made it, right? Which is proof by counterexample that the statement is false.
  - elunmask 4y ago
    It made it after he made the comment.
    - snvzz 4y ago
      Said comment was a reply to mine. Yet, I only made mine after clicking at the story in the front page.
jcranmer 4y ago
Twitter is collapsing so quickly and in such spectacular fashion that it would probably be better to have some sort of permathread that consolidates the latest updates on Twitter. At the rate it's going, Twitter may be spared all of the lawsuits coming its way simply by virtue of not existing by the time the lawsuits can come to fruition.
- PKop 4y ago
  Website and app working fine for me. Don't really see this "spectacular collapse" everyone seems to wish would happen
  - coldcode 4y ago
    It will until it stops. Then no one will be available to make it go again. Inertia eventually fails.
  - kharak 4y ago
    Have to agree. I’m bewildered by the (social) media reaction so far. People, the app still works. Over a thousand employees will continue to work for Twitter. As far as I understand, Twitter is financially in a terrible state. Huge changes have to happen. Let’s all just wait and see how it will turn out.
    - lijogdfljk 4y ago
      Sure, but the "collapse" is terrible management here lol. Terrible, by the metric of his own inconsistent actions. To suddenly reverse the decision of accidentally laying off 80% of your workforce is hilarious. People aren't saying the app isn't working. If you lay off all of HR will your company still run tomorrow? Of course. Lay off all of engineering will the app still run tomorrow? Of course (most likely lol). The collapse is the implied result of all these terrible decisions. Terrible decisions which imply terrible leadership. And companies can only survive terrible leadership for so long.
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  - themadturk 4y ago
    Yes, but as has been brought up multiple times, for how long? Are those that remain the right people to fix hardware or software failures, which are inevitable? I put in the request to download my data last night -- not because I'm leaving Twitter, but just as a precaution -- and I wonder if it will be fulfilled. I'm sure it's an automated process, but will the systems be running by the time it gets to my request?
  - dredmorbius 4y ago
    "Twitter" isn't just the technical website infrastructure, though that itself is now at grave risk: <https://how.complexsystems.fail/ https://how.complexsystems.fail/> It's also: - Twitter, the advertising-driven business model, which advertisers are fleeing. - Twitter, the institutional knowledge, technical and otherwise, which is now fleeing. - Twitter, a government-regulated (FTC and possibly other consent decrees / orders) enterprise. See for example: <https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2022/05/ftc-charges-twitter-deceptively-using-account-security-data-sell-targeted-ads https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2022/05/...> - Twitter, the contributors community, now rather noisily debarking for other pastures. On all these counts, Twitter is in the process of collapsing, and/or approaching a state where such collapse is inevitable. Pedantic limited-scope literal reading would be a flawed assessment.

That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is: Too many are making it.

by snvzz 4y ago

That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is: Too many are making it.

zxlk21e 4y ago

how are too many making it if none of them are making it?

snvzz 4y ago
>none of them are making it You do realize you're commenting on a story about Twitter that made it, right? Which is proof by counterexample that the statement is false.
- elunmask 4y ago
  It made it after he made the comment.
  - snvzz 4y ago
    Said comment was a reply to mine. Yet, I only made mine after clicking at the story in the front page.

jcranmer 4y ago

Twitter is collapsing so quickly and in such spectacular fashion that it would probably be better to have some sort of permathread that consolidates the latest updates on Twitter. At the rate it's going, Twitter may be spared all of the lawsuits coming its way simply by virtue of not existing by the time the lawsuits can come to fruition.

PKop 4y ago
Website and app working fine for me. Don't really see this "spectacular collapse" everyone seems to wish would happen
- coldcode 4y ago
  It will until it stops. Then no one will be available to make it go again. Inertia eventually fails.
- kharak 4y ago
  Have to agree. I’m bewildered by the (social) media reaction so far. People, the app still works. Over a thousand employees will continue to work for Twitter. As far as I understand, Twitter is financially in a terrible state. Huge changes have to happen. Let’s all just wait and see how it will turn out.
  - lijogdfljk 4y ago
    Sure, but the "collapse" is terrible management here lol. Terrible, by the metric of his own inconsistent actions. To suddenly reverse the decision of accidentally laying off 80% of your workforce is hilarious. People aren't saying the app isn't working. If you lay off all of HR will your company still run tomorrow? Of course. Lay off all of engineering will the app still run tomorrow? Of course (most likely lol). The collapse is the implied result of all these terrible decisions. Terrible decisions which imply terrible leadership. And companies can only survive terrible leadership for so long.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
- themadturk 4y ago
  Yes, but as has been brought up multiple times, for how long? Are those that remain the right people to fix hardware or software failures, which are inevitable? I put in the request to download my data last night -- not because I'm leaving Twitter, but just as a precaution -- and I wonder if it will be fulfilled. I'm sure it's an automated process, but will the systems be running by the time it gets to my request?
- dredmorbius 4y ago
  "Twitter" isn't just the technical website infrastructure, though that itself is now at grave risk: <https://how.complexsystems.fail/ https://how.complexsystems.fail/> It's also: - Twitter, the advertising-driven business model, which advertisers are fleeing. - Twitter, the institutional knowledge, technical and otherwise, which is now fleeing. - Twitter, a government-regulated (FTC and possibly other consent decrees / orders) enterprise. See for example: <https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2022/05/ftc-charges-twitter-deceptively-using-account-security-data-sell-targeted-ads https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2022/05/...> - Twitter, the contributors community, now rather noisily debarking for other pastures. On all these counts, Twitter is in the process of collapsing, and/or approaching a state where such collapse is inevitable. Pedantic limited-scope literal reading would be a flawed assessment.