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Paul Graham also seemed to defend the Twitter CEO: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1592852796185128961 https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1592852796185128961?

mrtksn 4y ago
It's just people having different interests and expectations looking from different angles. He is is right though, most people don't have the experience of being in the shoes of a company CEO and are trying to analyse Musk actions within a mental model of a company created from the perspective of an employee. What's funny though, when I clicked that link Twitter failed to display the tweet content, giving me an error message about the tweet not available or something. It worked after a refresh. I don't remember this happening before.
- pfisch 4y ago
  This has been happening to me a lot since Elon bought twitter. Not sure what has changed specifically. I guess they shut down a bunch of their servers to save money before everyone quit?
  - lupire 4y ago
    Twitter invented the Fail Whale. Instability is not new with Elon.
    - pfisch 4y ago
      Yeah maybe 10 years ago. But this hasn't been happening to me for the last 4 years.
- MaxMatti 4y ago
  Happened lots of times to me in the last year, perhaps the issues that were present in my region are now also present in yours.
- kaba0 4y ago
  I mean, a dumb kid could have done a better job than Musk here, just shut the fk up and let it go as it did before. Maybe if they would be slightly smarter they could ask some smart people what are they thinking, what would be a great improvement.
  - mrtksn 4y ago
    See, paying $44B for a company that doesn't make any profit and doesn't grow or doesn't create some kind of technology or platform that might be very valuable some day prohibits you from just letting it be. Even for the richest person on the planet, that's a very significant amount of money and that's before the loan with the $1B yearly interest he took for the purchase. That means, either He makes Twitter profitable or Twitter shuts down in a few years(He might prolong it by burning from his personal wealth) without anything to show for the money. As an owner and CEO, he can't afford to let Twitter operate as if it is business as usual.
    - kaba0 4y ago
      I’m fairly sure he was just dumb enough to write that contract in a way that essentially forced himself into buying it at such a high price.
      - mrtksn 4y ago
        I'm inclined to agree but it doesn't change the fact that He can't keep Twitter in the form he purchased it.
        kaba0 4y ago
        Lighting it on fire will make it leaner, but I’m not sure that’s a good solution.
  - pg_1234 4y ago
    A cardboard cut out could have done a better job than Musk. And it would scale better, one for the boardroom, one for the lobby ... and you could put one on each floor by the lifts.
greenthrow 4y ago
That's because pg is doing his typical responding to what he imagines the plebs to be saying instead of what is actually being said. People have made very clear, and frankly obvious, criticisms of Elon's obviously horrible mismanagement and instead of engaging with any of them specifically, pg loves to fall back to his "entrepreneurs are special magical unicorns that the unenlightened masses can never even begin to understand" schtick.
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NationalPark 4y ago
The VCs all seem really giddy about the situation. I think it's because the labor power tech workers represents terrifies them. They know that technology can be built without venture capital just slowly and perhaps in different directions, but venture capital alone needs tech workers to realize its visions. These guys can't get rich without the consent of the "laptop class" they talk about so spitefully. Finally they get to watch a bunch of those people suffer for no reason. PG is just enjoying the cruelty here.
- dandanua 4y ago
  I wouldn't bet on cruelty, but it's definitely a typical class war, owners/managers vs workers. Nothing new here.
lupire 4y ago
Paul Graham has been acting like an Elon Musk lite for years. Less chaotic, but similarly know-it-all.
drcongo 4y ago
Money worshippers worship money.

mrtksn 4y ago

It's just people having different interests and expectations looking from different angles. He is is right though, most people don't have the experience of being in the shoes of a company CEO and are trying to analyse Musk actions within a mental model of a company created from the perspective of an employee. What's funny though, when I clicked that link Twitter failed to display the tweet content, giving me an error message about the tweet not available or something. It worked after a refresh. I don't remember this happening before.

pfisch 4y ago
This has been happening to me a lot since Elon bought twitter. Not sure what has changed specifically. I guess they shut down a bunch of their servers to save money before everyone quit?
- lupire 4y ago
  Twitter invented the Fail Whale. Instability is not new with Elon.
  - pfisch 4y ago
    Yeah maybe 10 years ago. But this hasn't been happening to me for the last 4 years.
MaxMatti 4y ago
Happened lots of times to me in the last year, perhaps the issues that were present in my region are now also present in yours.
kaba0 4y ago
I mean, a dumb kid could have done a better job than Musk here, just shut the fk up and let it go as it did before. Maybe if they would be slightly smarter they could ask some smart people what are they thinking, what would be a great improvement.
- mrtksn 4y ago
  See, paying $44B for a company that doesn't make any profit and doesn't grow or doesn't create some kind of technology or platform that might be very valuable some day prohibits you from just letting it be. Even for the richest person on the planet, that's a very significant amount of money and that's before the loan with the $1B yearly interest he took for the purchase. That means, either He makes Twitter profitable or Twitter shuts down in a few years(He might prolong it by burning from his personal wealth) without anything to show for the money. As an owner and CEO, he can't afford to let Twitter operate as if it is business as usual.
  - kaba0 4y ago
    I’m fairly sure he was just dumb enough to write that contract in a way that essentially forced himself into buying it at such a high price.
    - mrtksn 4y ago
      I'm inclined to agree but it doesn't change the fact that He can't keep Twitter in the form he purchased it.
      - kaba0 4y ago
        Lighting it on fire will make it leaner, but I’m not sure that’s a good solution.
- pg_1234 4y ago
  A cardboard cut out could have done a better job than Musk. And it would scale better, one for the boardroom, one for the lobby ... and you could put one on each floor by the lifts.

greenthrow 4y ago

That's because pg is doing his typical responding to what he imagines the plebs to be saying instead of what is actually being said. People have made very clear, and frankly obvious, criticisms of Elon's obviously horrible mismanagement and instead of engaging with any of them specifically, pg loves to fall back to his "entrepreneurs are special magical unicorns that the unenlightened masses can never even begin to understand" schtick.

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NationalPark 4y ago

The VCs all seem really giddy about the situation. I think it's because the labor power tech workers represents terrifies them. They know that technology can be built without venture capital just slowly and perhaps in different directions, but venture capital alone needs tech workers to realize its visions. These guys can't get rich without the consent of the "laptop class" they talk about so spitefully. Finally they get to watch a bunch of those people suffer for no reason. PG is just enjoying the cruelty here.

dandanua 4y ago
I wouldn't bet on cruelty, but it's definitely a typical class war, owners/managers vs workers. Nothing new here.

lupire 4y ago

Paul Graham has been acting like an Elon Musk lite for years. Less chaotic, but similarly know-it-all.

drcongo 4y ago

Money worshippers worship money.