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Trump: TikTok is a national security threat! America: XENOPHOBE! Biden: TikTok is a national security threat. America: SHUT IT DOWN!

plgonzalezrx8 4y ago
Call me whatever you want, but Trump had a LOT of things right. He was just massively inarticulate and his persona made it easy for people to disagree with him. But yeah, he tried to shut it down and the democrats just reverted everything just to say they reverted something trump did. This report is nothing new and it has been known for a long time. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-reverses-trump-s-effort-ban-tiktok-orders-broader-review-n1270133 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-reverses-...
- wollsmoth 4y ago
  I wasn't necessarily opposed to his call for that. But the whole idea of somehow segmenting the app in a way that would somehow make tiktok better for us seemed kinda impractical. Just ban it or don't. If we ban it someone will make a clone in the west, or IG reels will just take over.
- ibejoeb 4y ago
  Collective madness. Also, it's hysterical that there are literally bleach-drinking challenges on TikTok.
bbzealot 4y ago
You’re claiming that a relevant amount of Americans accused Trump of being Xenophobe due to his remarks on TikTok. Do you have any source to back that claim?
- zthrowaway 4y ago
  - https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/trump-tiktok-ban-china-microsoft-20200804.html https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/trump-tiktok-ban... - https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/7/23/21334871/tiktok-ban-us-trump-china https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/7/23/21334871/tiktok-ban-... - https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/08/10/banning-tiktok-stoking-sinophobia-isnt-likely-reelect-trump/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/08/10/banning-ti... - https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/can-the-trump-administration-really-ban-tiktok.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/can-the-trump-admini... - https://www.wired.com/story/trump-tiktok-drama-security-distraction/ https://www.wired.com/story/trump-tiktok-drama-security-dist... There's plenty more. Look at previous threads about Trump wanting to ban TikTok on hackernews and reddit. Source: Being online and/or watching TV for the past 4 years...
  - xadhominemx 4y ago
    Only the Inquirer and Washington post pieces said Trump was going to ban TikTok because of racism/xenophobia; and those were both published in the editorial sections. Is that the best you got?
- hnrodey 4y ago
  Your google works the same as mine.
rvz 4y ago
This is true. However: This investigation into TikTok happened before Trump wanted the ban. [0][1] But the media just brainwashed a narrative to people who don't research because it came from his mouth at the ridiculous height of 2020. Just look at the TikTok fanatics back then defending and being in denial here after Trump wanted it banned on the same national security grounds [2]. Two years later under Biden, NOW is the time they also want to ban it? Lots of people have just been manipulated by the media and the news again for political gain, as expected. I brought that up at the time and was immediately flagged. Perhaps it's because it was true, against the herd. [0] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tiktok-cfius-exclusive-idUSKBN1XB4IL https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tiktok-cfius-exclusive-id... [1] https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cotton-schumer-request-assessment-of-national-security-risks-posed-by-china-owned-video-sharing-platform-tiktok-a-potential-counterintelligence-threat-with-over-110-million-downloads-in-us-alone https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cotton-sch... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24611558 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24611558 [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24612012 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24612012
- hnrodey 4y ago
  agree, on all counts

plgonzalezrx8 4y ago

Call me whatever you want, but Trump had a LOT of things right. He was just massively inarticulate and his persona made it easy for people to disagree with him. But yeah, he tried to shut it down and the democrats just reverted everything just to say they reverted something trump did. This report is nothing new and it has been known for a long time. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-reverses-trump-s-effort-ban-tiktok-orders-broader-review-n1270133 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-reverses-...

wollsmoth 4y ago
I wasn't necessarily opposed to his call for that. But the whole idea of somehow segmenting the app in a way that would somehow make tiktok better for us seemed kinda impractical. Just ban it or don't. If we ban it someone will make a clone in the west, or IG reels will just take over.
ibejoeb 4y ago
Collective madness. Also, it's hysterical that there are literally bleach-drinking challenges on TikTok.

bbzealot 4y ago

You’re claiming that a relevant amount of Americans accused Trump of being Xenophobe due to his remarks on TikTok. Do you have any source to back that claim?

zthrowaway 4y ago
- https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/trump-tiktok-ban-china-microsoft-20200804.html https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/trump-tiktok-ban... - https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/7/23/21334871/tiktok-ban-us-trump-china https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/7/23/21334871/tiktok-ban-... - https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/08/10/banning-tiktok-stoking-sinophobia-isnt-likely-reelect-trump/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/08/10/banning-ti... - https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/can-the-trump-administration-really-ban-tiktok.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/can-the-trump-admini... - https://www.wired.com/story/trump-tiktok-drama-security-distraction/ https://www.wired.com/story/trump-tiktok-drama-security-dist... There's plenty more. Look at previous threads about Trump wanting to ban TikTok on hackernews and reddit. Source: Being online and/or watching TV for the past 4 years...
- xadhominemx 4y ago
  Only the Inquirer and Washington post pieces said Trump was going to ban TikTok because of racism/xenophobia; and those were both published in the editorial sections. Is that the best you got?
hnrodey 4y ago
Your google works the same as mine.

rvz 4y ago

This is true. However: This investigation into TikTok happened before Trump wanted the ban. [0][1] But the media just brainwashed a narrative to people who don't research because it came from his mouth at the ridiculous height of 2020. Just look at the TikTok fanatics back then defending and being in denial here after Trump wanted it banned on the same national security grounds [2]. Two years later under Biden, NOW is the time they also want to ban it? Lots of people have just been manipulated by the media and the news again for political gain, as expected. I brought that up at the time and was immediately flagged. Perhaps it's because it was true, against the herd. [0] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tiktok-cfius-exclusive-idUSKBN1XB4IL https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tiktok-cfius-exclusive-id... [1] https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cotton-schumer-request-assessment-of-national-security-risks-posed-by-china-owned-video-sharing-platform-tiktok-a-potential-counterintelligence-threat-with-over-110-million-downloads-in-us-alone https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cotton-sch... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24611558 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24611558 [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24612012 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24612012

hnrodey 4y ago
agree, on all counts