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Can you imagine the international and diplomatic chaos that would ensue from world cup fans getting to jail in Qatar over things that are morally acceptable in

Can you imagine the international and diplomatic chaos that would ensue from world cup fans getting to jail in Qatar over things that are morally acceptable in their country of origin? I think FIFA would be blamed for the decision to host the world cup in Qatar too, the country of origin would be in a pickle too, and some media will definitely fan the flames (pun intended). Depending on the timing it can even lead to protests during the world cup itself. I think the entire thing is explosive, and the recent response of Qatar to ban alcoholic sales (whether it's acceptable or not I don't care) shows that they have no idea they are walking on thin ice, and that's a bad sign. Whatever Qatar or the fans should've done might matter for you to pick a side, but I personally think those responsible are whoever brought the fire and oil together, neither the fire nor oils fault for exploding when they met. I think Qatar is also pretty shortsighted for not realizing the damage they are going to do to themselves might be much more than the advantage.

psychphysic 4y ago
> Can you imagine the international and diplomatic chaos that would ensue from world cup fans getting to jail in Qatar over things that are morally acceptable in their country of origin? Yes, unfortunately this is a serious problem with us in the West. We feel hugely entitled to behave as we like anywhere in the world. Case in point Grinder taking cannabis products into Russia. Shocking behaviour by most of the world's standards. But apparently didn't even cross her mind Russia has its own rules. I'd say I'm a heavy drinker. But even I can see that forgoing alcohol in a foreign country is as obvious as me stopping smoking weed when I get home from Amsterdam.
- piva00 4y ago
  > I'd say I'm a heavy drinker. But even I can see that forgoing alcohol in a foreign country is as obvious as me stopping smoking weed when I get home from Amsterdam. Not really the same as Qatar pulled the rug on the alcohol ban 2 days before the event starts... Don't think there's a good analogy for that, even if you had planned a trip to Amsterdam years in advance for some big event and they completely banned weed 2 days before said event wouldn't be the same, the expectations around alcohol and weed are quite different for the intended audience of said event.
  - psychphysic 4y ago
    To be fair weed is illegal in Amsterdam only tolerated. Personally I just don't see recreational drugs (that includes alcohol) a big deal. But remember it's not completely banned you can drink at the festival and the hotels. You just can't buy alcohol in the stadium. Bud 0% is available. No big deal in my book.

psychphysic 4y ago

> Can you imagine the international and diplomatic chaos that would ensue from world cup fans getting to jail in Qatar over things that are morally acceptable in their country of origin? Yes, unfortunately this is a serious problem with us in the West. We feel hugely entitled to behave as we like anywhere in the world. Case in point Grinder taking cannabis products into Russia. Shocking behaviour by most of the world's standards. But apparently didn't even cross her mind Russia has its own rules. I'd say I'm a heavy drinker. But even I can see that forgoing alcohol in a foreign country is as obvious as me stopping smoking weed when I get home from Amsterdam.

piva00 4y ago
> I'd say I'm a heavy drinker. But even I can see that forgoing alcohol in a foreign country is as obvious as me stopping smoking weed when I get home from Amsterdam. Not really the same as Qatar pulled the rug on the alcohol ban 2 days before the event starts... Don't think there's a good analogy for that, even if you had planned a trip to Amsterdam years in advance for some big event and they completely banned weed 2 days before said event wouldn't be the same, the expectations around alcohol and weed are quite different for the intended audience of said event.
- psychphysic 4y ago
  To be fair weed is illegal in Amsterdam only tolerated. Personally I just don't see recreational drugs (that includes alcohol) a big deal. But remember it's not completely banned you can drink at the festival and the hotels. You just can't buy alcohol in the stadium. Bud 0% is available. No big deal in my book.