>> which seems to imply to me that they're allowing a lot more manipulation of the models further down the rendering pipeline than is generally recommended in M

>> which seems to imply to me that they're allowing a lot more manipulation of the models further down the rendering pipeline than is generally recommended in MVC. Of note, is that the inventor of MVC is also the inventor of DCI. Consequently, I think you'd agree that perhaps he didn't agree with you :)