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Out of curiosity, where do you tend to learn about this stuff? What sites/news sources do you use?

ShredKazoo 4y ago
Mostly twitter actually. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/with_replies https://twitter.com/elonmusk/with_replies and tweets it recommends to me. I don't actually have an account.
- ffggffggj 4y ago
  For what it’s worth, your post is wildly inaccurate. To me it reads like the understanding of someone who consumes a lot far-right stuff and cannot discern between online talk show narrative and factual real world events. You might consider enriching your media diet.
  - ShredKazoo 4y ago
    Well, I said I appreciated corrections :-) I think this comment from you is a bit too high-level to be useful though, maybe it'd be more helpful to identify the bullet point which is most inaccurate and explain why, with citations. I mostly vote for Democrats btw.
    - smcl 4y ago
      I'm not the person you replied to but when I read your comment at the top-level it suggested that "far left" and "liberal" people were a problem at Twitter and that they needed to be somehow removed from the org to fix it. This is a fairly common trope among the alt-right and far-right - that the damn snowflake liberals want to take away your freedom of speech (and take your guns, and turn your kids trans, etc etc), and to be honest I raised an eyebrow. Though it could possibly be that you meant it to be read as "ok assuming Musk thinks liberals/left-leaning employees are the problem, here's how he could have booted them in a less chaotic way ..."
      - ShredKazoo 4y ago
        Well Elon has a lot of haters, especially among liberal people, so it seems pretty reasonable to deduce that many Twitter employees were Elon haters? And yeah, a company full of employees who hate the CEO isn't gonna function great. So in that sense, it's a problem to solve independent of the damn snowflake liberals angle. Is there a specific "enriching my media diet" thing I'm missing here? Like I feel like that paragraph ^ is just common sense.
        smcl 4y ago
        I don't think that is a problem you need to solve at all. Who cares if your employees don't like you? There are thousands of CEOs worldwide and likely most of their employees resent, distrust, dislike or even hate them - but they need to work with each other and usually manage (if begrudgingly) to do so. I didn't say you should enrich your media diet - I don't really care what you watch or read.
        ShredKazoo 4y ago
        Sure, maybe a better way to put it would be: at high-functioning companies, workers believe in the CEO. So if you want to create a high-functioning company, and lots of workers are never gonna believe in the CEO because they think he's a "psychopath" (term used elsewhere in this thread for Elon because he wants employees to work 40 hours in the office!), then it makes sense to encourage those workers to leave on some kind of timetable, same way Zappos offers a nice severance so they're left with only the most enthusiastic employees
        smcl 4y ago
        He fired ~3700 after a couple of days - that’s not encouraging anyone to leave on some kind of timetable, that’s a mass layoff. It certainly doesn’t make him a psychopath, but it does make him a boss that I would not want to work for - so I completely understand the exodus that this (and a few of the other questionable moves) appears to have started
        4y ago
- lm28469 4y ago
  Can't you tell your source is absolutely 100% biased ? I can't tell if you're satire or for real
  - ShredKazoo 4y ago
    That's not the only thing I read. It's a primary source at least :-) I also didn't claim to be an unbiased source of information, and in fact actively welcomed corrections...
    - lm28469 4y ago
      That was my correction =)

Mostly twitter actually. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/with_replies https://twitter.com/elonmusk/with_replies and tweets it recommends to me. I don't actually have an account.

ffggffggj 4y ago
For what it’s worth, your post is wildly inaccurate. To me it reads like the understanding of someone who consumes a lot far-right stuff and cannot discern between online talk show narrative and factual real world events. You might consider enriching your media diet.
- ShredKazoo 4y ago
  Well, I said I appreciated corrections :-) I think this comment from you is a bit too high-level to be useful though, maybe it'd be more helpful to identify the bullet point which is most inaccurate and explain why, with citations. I mostly vote for Democrats btw.
  - smcl 4y ago
    I'm not the person you replied to but when I read your comment at the top-level it suggested that "far left" and "liberal" people were a problem at Twitter and that they needed to be somehow removed from the org to fix it. This is a fairly common trope among the alt-right and far-right - that the damn snowflake liberals want to take away your freedom of speech (and take your guns, and turn your kids trans, etc etc), and to be honest I raised an eyebrow. Though it could possibly be that you meant it to be read as "ok assuming Musk thinks liberals/left-leaning employees are the problem, here's how he could have booted them in a less chaotic way ..."
    - ShredKazoo 4y ago
      Well Elon has a lot of haters, especially among liberal people, so it seems pretty reasonable to deduce that many Twitter employees were Elon haters? And yeah, a company full of employees who hate the CEO isn't gonna function great. So in that sense, it's a problem to solve independent of the damn snowflake liberals angle. Is there a specific "enriching my media diet" thing I'm missing here? Like I feel like that paragraph ^ is just common sense.
      - smcl 4y ago
        I don't think that is a problem you need to solve at all. Who cares if your employees don't like you? There are thousands of CEOs worldwide and likely most of their employees resent, distrust, dislike or even hate them - but they need to work with each other and usually manage (if begrudgingly) to do so. I didn't say you should enrich your media diet - I don't really care what you watch or read.
        ShredKazoo 4y ago
        Sure, maybe a better way to put it would be: at high-functioning companies, workers believe in the CEO. So if you want to create a high-functioning company, and lots of workers are never gonna believe in the CEO because they think he's a "psychopath" (term used elsewhere in this thread for Elon because he wants employees to work 40 hours in the office!), then it makes sense to encourage those workers to leave on some kind of timetable, same way Zappos offers a nice severance so they're left with only the most enthusiastic employees
        smcl 4y ago
        He fired ~3700 after a couple of days - that’s not encouraging anyone to leave on some kind of timetable, that’s a mass layoff. It certainly doesn’t make him a psychopath, but it does make him a boss that I would not want to work for - so I completely understand the exodus that this (and a few of the other questionable moves) appears to have started
      - 4y ago
lm28469 4y ago
Can't you tell your source is absolutely 100% biased ? I can't tell if you're satire or for real
- ShredKazoo 4y ago
  That's not the only thing I read. It's a primary source at least :-) I also didn't claim to be an unbiased source of information, and in fact actively welcomed corrections...
  - lm28469 4y ago
    That was my correction =)