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Good word, it gets better from there: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593455727611215872 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593455727611215872 > And …

by klyrs 4y ago

Good word, it gets better from there: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593455727611215872 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593455727611215872 > And … we just hit another all-time high in Twitter usage lol > Let that sink in … He literally cannot distinguish between good and bad attention. He still thinks he's winning this.

recuter 4y ago
That link works fine, site still up, and you yourself linked to it. He wins a chuckle out of me. :)
memish 4y ago
Highest DAU for xx% less overhead is literally winning. That's why people have lost their minds. They want him to fail so badly and they're getting the feeling that he won't, so cognitive dissonance is through the roof.
- emptyparadise 4y ago
  If you're a power plant owner and want to maximize energy output, setting the plant on fire is certainly one way to release a lot of energy very quickly.
- bsjaux628 4y ago
  That just tells me that (a) they were/are over provisioned so an increase in DAU was a rather simple thing, (b) computers are deterministic and if everybody quit then the system is at the same state as it was when it already had less DAU and was able to handle more. There is no engineering feat here brought by him.
- guax 4y ago
  Twitter has not changed as a product. His Twitter blue has been a disaster so far. Hes getting attention for his much larger failure, being the worst tech company manager we've seen in a while. You cant take credit for positive outcomes if you done nothing yet.
  - ilyt 4y ago
    If it didn't change and he fires half of company, wouldn't (short term) that be actual gain ?
    - ceejayoz 4y ago
      Short term, they’re paying those folks for the next three months to do nothing. If the chaos drives away advertisers, as it seems to be, that isn’t great either.
  - memish 4y ago
    The same Twitter but with higher DAU is running with xx% less overhead. That's an objective improvement measured by numbers. That Twitter blue was a mess for a day doesn't matter in the long run. Losing advertisers is a problem in the short term, but less overhead helps and they're pivoting the model. I thought we all hated ads? Now people suddenly support that model? Please. It's all so fake.
    - lovich 4y ago
      You’re giving him a lot of benefit of the doubt. So far we only have his untrustworthy[1] statements about DAU slightly ticking up, but we have third party confirmation that he’s lost a significant number of employees in critical job roles with no explanation about how Twitter can survive long term without them and advertisers leaving which is dropping revenue. Until he has an actual win or a compelling argument as to how his strategy is going to improve long term, I don’t see why you wouldn’t look at his management of Twitter as a disaster [1]he already posted a conspiracy theory, deleted it when called out, and then said he never posted it. That’s his recent behavior, if you trust his statements I have a bridge to sell you
      - memish 4y ago
        I give builders the benefit of the doubt, especially if they've done it before. Especially if they've put rockets in space. That he deleted that stupid tweet was admission it was stupid. Where did he say he never posted it though? It's highly unlikely he said that and wasn't joking. He knows everything he posts is captured immediately.
- pavlov 4y ago
  Winning means making more money. Twitter isn’t a machine that automatically converts DAU to money. It’s an operation that sells ads. And it seems to be doing poorly at that as of late.
- Sophira 4y ago
  Are you seriously suggesting that making people believe that you're running the company to the ground is a good way to build publicity? It's true that good publicity comes from amazing turnarounds. Final Fantasy XIV is a good example, since FFXIV 1.0 was widely regarded as terrible and 2.0 was lauded for somehow miraculously turning the company's fortunes around. But the big difference there is that it was a new management that did it. You don't get points for completely ruining your company's best-known product (to the point where some believe it to be the company's only product). The reason people are "using" Twitter now is to watch a trainwreck. Most people by now probably have a backup plan.
matsemann 4y ago
There's an old tweet in Norwegian that constantly gets retweeted, or just referenced as "balloon animal". It goes something like: > [me running naked through the library with a balloon animal on my head] > The fact that you're talking about me means that I hit a nerve https://twitter.com/kaffekjele/status/586625003661197312 https://twitter.com/kaffekjele/status/586625003661197312
- LambdaComplex 4y ago
  I think the equivalent English meme would be this exchange from Pirates of the Caribbean: "You are without doubt the worst pirate I've ever heard of"/"But you have heard of me"
  - Redoubts 4y ago
    This feels closer https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwA4jzxVoAAeCSU.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwA4jzxVoAAeCSU.jpg
- klyrs 4y ago
  In English, I've heard something similar used as a cheesy pickup line.
Havoc 4y ago
To be fair for Twitter any sort of eyeballs are eyeballs. Doesn’t matter that they’re just there to watch the carnage
- low_tech_love 4y ago
  How long can that last, though?
  - Cthulhu_ 4y ago
    Until the site goes down, advertisers move on and money runs out. Either one of those is already happening or will happen soon enough.
  - ryanSrich 4y ago
    Decades? It’s the primary use case for Twitter.
    - robbick 4y ago
      Up to now Twitter was a platform for watching other's carnage, now it is producing its own carnage
      - q1w2 4y ago
        carnage is carnage. The site is still up.
- klyrs 4y ago
  Funny thing about running an internet service. Every visit costs you money. With advertisers dropping like flies, more eyeballs isn't always a good thing.
ilyt 4y ago
Good and bad attention is all the same for advertisers. Question is how many will want to bother
jpeter 4y ago
Tweet is not available lol. Had to reload a couple of times. First cracks showing?
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
  Works for me without issues.
kadomony 4y ago
Well, he is on the spectrum. Social behaviors aren't really a thing for him.
johannes1234321 4y ago
Well, Twitter usage is the relevant metric as that leads to ad impressions, thus revenue. However the question is for how long he can keep the drama and attention till the thing collapses.
- lovich 4y ago
  Not when advertisers are jumping ship simultaneously. Number of impressions is only one factor in revenue for advertising
notacoward 4y ago
Pretty sure other disasters have caused spikes in Twitter usage too. Even someone as dense as F.Elon should know that transient fluctuations in any metric don't mean anything. Do they not teach statistics in South African high schools? Only sustainable changes matter, and when Twitter itself is the disaster that's not sustainable. People will only stand around in hopes of seeing the final collapse for so long.

by klyrs 4y ago

recuter 4y ago

That link works fine, site still up, and you yourself linked to it. He wins a chuckle out of me. :)

memish 4y ago

Highest DAU for xx% less overhead is literally winning. That's why people have lost their minds. They want him to fail so badly and they're getting the feeling that he won't, so cognitive dissonance is through the roof.

emptyparadise 4y ago
If you're a power plant owner and want to maximize energy output, setting the plant on fire is certainly one way to release a lot of energy very quickly.
bsjaux628 4y ago
That just tells me that (a) they were/are over provisioned so an increase in DAU was a rather simple thing, (b) computers are deterministic and if everybody quit then the system is at the same state as it was when it already had less DAU and was able to handle more. There is no engineering feat here brought by him.
guax 4y ago
Twitter has not changed as a product. His Twitter blue has been a disaster so far. Hes getting attention for his much larger failure, being the worst tech company manager we've seen in a while. You cant take credit for positive outcomes if you done nothing yet.
- ilyt 4y ago
  If it didn't change and he fires half of company, wouldn't (short term) that be actual gain ?
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    Short term, they’re paying those folks for the next three months to do nothing. If the chaos drives away advertisers, as it seems to be, that isn’t great either.
- memish 4y ago
  The same Twitter but with higher DAU is running with xx% less overhead. That's an objective improvement measured by numbers. That Twitter blue was a mess for a day doesn't matter in the long run. Losing advertisers is a problem in the short term, but less overhead helps and they're pivoting the model. I thought we all hated ads? Now people suddenly support that model? Please. It's all so fake.
  - lovich 4y ago
    You’re giving him a lot of benefit of the doubt. So far we only have his untrustworthy[1] statements about DAU slightly ticking up, but we have third party confirmation that he’s lost a significant number of employees in critical job roles with no explanation about how Twitter can survive long term without them and advertisers leaving which is dropping revenue. Until he has an actual win or a compelling argument as to how his strategy is going to improve long term, I don’t see why you wouldn’t look at his management of Twitter as a disaster [1]he already posted a conspiracy theory, deleted it when called out, and then said he never posted it. That’s his recent behavior, if you trust his statements I have a bridge to sell you
    - memish 4y ago
      I give builders the benefit of the doubt, especially if they've done it before. Especially if they've put rockets in space. That he deleted that stupid tweet was admission it was stupid. Where did he say he never posted it though? It's highly unlikely he said that and wasn't joking. He knows everything he posts is captured immediately.
pavlov 4y ago
Winning means making more money. Twitter isn’t a machine that automatically converts DAU to money. It’s an operation that sells ads. And it seems to be doing poorly at that as of late.
Sophira 4y ago
Are you seriously suggesting that making people believe that you're running the company to the ground is a good way to build publicity? It's true that good publicity comes from amazing turnarounds. Final Fantasy XIV is a good example, since FFXIV 1.0 was widely regarded as terrible and 2.0 was lauded for somehow miraculously turning the company's fortunes around. But the big difference there is that it was a new management that did it. You don't get points for completely ruining your company's best-known product (to the point where some believe it to be the company's only product). The reason people are "using" Twitter now is to watch a trainwreck. Most people by now probably have a backup plan.

matsemann 4y ago

There's an old tweet in Norwegian that constantly gets retweeted, or just referenced as "balloon animal". It goes something like: > [me running naked through the library with a balloon animal on my head] > The fact that you're talking about me means that I hit a nerve https://twitter.com/kaffekjele/status/586625003661197312 https://twitter.com/kaffekjele/status/586625003661197312

LambdaComplex 4y ago
I think the equivalent English meme would be this exchange from Pirates of the Caribbean: "You are without doubt the worst pirate I've ever heard of"/"But you have heard of me"
- Redoubts 4y ago
  This feels closer https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwA4jzxVoAAeCSU.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwA4jzxVoAAeCSU.jpg
klyrs 4y ago
In English, I've heard something similar used as a cheesy pickup line.

Havoc 4y ago

To be fair for Twitter any sort of eyeballs are eyeballs. Doesn’t matter that they’re just there to watch the carnage

low_tech_love 4y ago
How long can that last, though?
- Cthulhu_ 4y ago
  Until the site goes down, advertisers move on and money runs out. Either one of those is already happening or will happen soon enough.
- ryanSrich 4y ago
  Decades? It’s the primary use case for Twitter.
  - robbick 4y ago
    Up to now Twitter was a platform for watching other's carnage, now it is producing its own carnage
    - q1w2 4y ago
      carnage is carnage. The site is still up.
klyrs 4y ago
Funny thing about running an internet service. Every visit costs you money. With advertisers dropping like flies, more eyeballs isn't always a good thing.

ilyt 4y ago

Good and bad attention is all the same for advertisers. Question is how many will want to bother

jpeter 4y ago

Tweet is not available lol. Had to reload a couple of times. First cracks showing?

Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
Works for me without issues.

kadomony 4y ago

Well, he is on the spectrum. Social behaviors aren't really a thing for him.

johannes1234321 4y ago

Well, Twitter usage is the relevant metric as that leads to ad impressions, thus revenue. However the question is for how long he can keep the drama and attention till the thing collapses.

lovich 4y ago
Not when advertisers are jumping ship simultaneously. Number of impressions is only one factor in revenue for advertising

notacoward 4y ago

Pretty sure other disasters have caused spikes in Twitter usage too. Even someone as dense as F.Elon should know that transient fluctuations in any metric don't mean anything. Do they not teach statistics in South African high schools? Only sustainable changes matter, and when Twitter itself is the disaster that's not sustainable. People will only stand around in hopes of seeing the final collapse for so long.