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Doesn't it get exhausting to jump through so many mental hoops to minimize someone's accomplishments? I don't understand what people get out of this, is it rea

Doesn't it get exhausting to jump through so many mental hoops to minimize someone's accomplishments? I don't understand what people get out of this, is it really that painful to admit that some guy has done some pretty cool things with his life? All the effort it takes to research all the negative things about someone could've been spent doing something productive. Being willing to admit that someone did something awesome could've been exciting or inspiring. And yet people work so hard to think around all the good things, and take the most negative view possible. Ugh, I don't like this part of human nature.

rjh29 4y ago
It is the opposite. It is exhausting to hold a nuanced, balanced view of things. It is much easier to think "I don't like this person, therefore everything about this person is bad". The brain does it for you. I agree btw, I have watched people go from worshipping Elon to suddenly deciding he's a fraud and a talentless hack and every one of his accomplishments were some kind of fluke. It's so strange.
- runarberg 4y ago
  In light of new evidence, some people actually alter their beliefs.
  - rjh29 4y ago
    Maybe the majority are flexible, but they don't post their opinions on the internet because they're not extreme enough to warrant posting?
systemvoltage 4y ago
If it was someone other than Elon, this entire community would be flagging this kind of stuff with a resounding unity. Everytime, someone comes up with these arguments, I cannot help but to think "Wow, you must be really bent ideologically to come up with this". We're in a massive ideological warfare and people who perpetuate hate like this needs to be condemned from all sides. It is making a rather normal forum like this into a vile, toxic and unwelcoming place. I don't know what it is about certain topics here that brings the worst of people.
drevil-v2 4y ago
It makes sense if you decide that Elon is guilty of "wrongthink", at that point for this mob nuance and context out the window and they will burn anyone at the stack. Works the other way, if you are say the right things then your actions don't matter. Say the right incantations and get away with murder/robbery, no one cares.

rjh29 4y ago

It is the opposite. It is exhausting to hold a nuanced, balanced view of things. It is much easier to think "I don't like this person, therefore everything about this person is bad". The brain does it for you. I agree btw, I have watched people go from worshipping Elon to suddenly deciding he's a fraud and a talentless hack and every one of his accomplishments were some kind of fluke. It's so strange.

runarberg 4y ago
In light of new evidence, some people actually alter their beliefs.
- rjh29 4y ago
  Maybe the majority are flexible, but they don't post their opinions on the internet because they're not extreme enough to warrant posting?

systemvoltage 4y ago

If it was someone other than Elon, this entire community would be flagging this kind of stuff with a resounding unity. Everytime, someone comes up with these arguments, I cannot help but to think "Wow, you must be really bent ideologically to come up with this". We're in a massive ideological warfare and people who perpetuate hate like this needs to be condemned from all sides. It is making a rather normal forum like this into a vile, toxic and unwelcoming place. I don't know what it is about certain topics here that brings the worst of people.

drevil-v2 4y ago

It makes sense if you decide that Elon is guilty of "wrongthink", at that point for this mob nuance and context out the window and they will burn anyone at the stack. Works the other way, if you are say the right things then your actions don't matter. Say the right incantations and get away with murder/robbery, no one cares.