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2.3% requiring medical attention is surprisingly high. This seems orders of magnitude higher than classic psychedelics. It is likely this is greater than simply

by ipnon 4y ago

2.3% requiring medical attention is surprisingly high. This seems orders of magnitude higher than classic psychedelics. It is likely this is greater than simply combining DMT and an MAOI.

yieldcrv 4y ago
Its probably as simple as saying certain people shouldn't take it fast talking man at end of commercial: “dont take if you’re bipolar/schizo/pregnant/have suicidal ideations or if anyone in your family has had this either” tada!
- asveikau 4y ago
  There are a lot of people walking around with bipolar who don't know they have it. Among others reasons, this can happen because they will not seek treatment for hypomania (a good mood) and maybe not connect the dots in their behavior patterns. A bad chemical experience could tip them over the edge. This happened to someone close to me.
lend000 4y ago
MAOI's on their own can be dangerous depending on your diet -- I wouldn't be surprised by a 2.3% number representing people who consumed a lot of tyramine beforehand, despite the fact that you are supposed to fast.
ycombinete 4y ago
I’m not rolling that d40!
- alexvoda 4y ago
  About that, there are stories about what happens when you crit fail that d40 and for various levels of succeed or fail. But I never heard a story about someone rolling a crit succeed.
quechimba 4y ago
That sounds like a lot. My brother is running an ayahuasca retreat in Peru and the only time someone needed medical attention was because they had an allergic reaction to peanuts...
froh 4y ago
it was self-reported data covering anything from diy via western clinical setting to trip to the amazonas: > The researchers analyzed data from an online Global Ayahuasca Survey that ran from 2017–2019, recruiting 10,836 respondents from over 50 countries. "requiring medical attention" includes any and all "felt bad, called ambulance or doc" scenarios > Approximately 2.3% of the participants reported that they required medical attention for any adverse effects. “These results are consistent with previous studies, with regular users reporting that most adverse physical effects seem to not be serious and do not compromise health,” Perkins and colleagues explain. and the paragraph right before states that nausea and headaches and drowsiness are expected and consistent with previous studies. So what exactly is the message of extracting just this number, without that context?

by ipnon 4y ago

2.3% requiring medical attention is surprisingly high. This seems orders of magnitude higher than classic psychedelics. It is likely this is greater than simply combining DMT and an MAOI.

yieldcrv 4y ago

Its probably as simple as saying certain people shouldn't take it fast talking man at end of commercial: “dont take if you’re bipolar/schizo/pregnant/have suicidal ideations or if anyone in your family has had this either” tada!

asveikau 4y ago
There are a lot of people walking around with bipolar who don't know they have it. Among others reasons, this can happen because they will not seek treatment for hypomania (a good mood) and maybe not connect the dots in their behavior patterns. A bad chemical experience could tip them over the edge. This happened to someone close to me.

lend000 4y ago

MAOI's on their own can be dangerous depending on your diet -- I wouldn't be surprised by a 2.3% number representing people who consumed a lot of tyramine beforehand, despite the fact that you are supposed to fast.

ycombinete 4y ago

I’m not rolling that d40!

alexvoda 4y ago
About that, there are stories about what happens when you crit fail that d40 and for various levels of succeed or fail. But I never heard a story about someone rolling a crit succeed.

quechimba 4y ago

That sounds like a lot. My brother is running an ayahuasca retreat in Peru and the only time someone needed medical attention was because they had an allergic reaction to peanuts...

froh 4y ago

it was self-reported data covering anything from diy via western clinical setting to trip to the amazonas: > The researchers analyzed data from an online Global Ayahuasca Survey that ran from 2017–2019, recruiting 10,836 respondents from over 50 countries. "requiring medical attention" includes any and all "felt bad, called ambulance or doc" scenarios > Approximately 2.3% of the participants reported that they required medical attention for any adverse effects. “These results are consistent with previous studies, with regular users reporting that most adverse physical effects seem to not be serious and do not compromise health,” Perkins and colleagues explain. and the paragraph right before states that nausea and headaches and drowsiness are expected and consistent with previous studies. So what exactly is the message of extracting just this number, without that context?