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To be fair, that design and engineering staff took over a year and couldn't deliver an "edit" feature. Project Veritas caught some Twitter engineer on camera cl

To be fair, that design and engineering staff took over a year and couldn't deliver an "edit" feature. Project Veritas caught some Twitter engineer on camera claiming to work 4 hours per week. This is not an endorsement of Elon or anything he's doing with Twitter, but Twitter's core product is not complicated. For some comparisons: Rumble has 35 employees When WhatsApp was sold to FB in 2014 they had 55 employees. WeChat has about 1400 employees. My guess is you could successfully run Twitter with a few hundred employees.

halfmatthalfcat 4y ago
Your username justifies this take lol
- Consultant32452 4y ago
  WeChat does push to talk voice chat, image sharing like snapchat, broadcast messaging, video conferencing, video sharing, and digital payments. What is Twitter doing behind the scenes that justifies multiple times the amount of employees at WeChat?
  - sidibe 4y ago
    WhatsApp is your strongest argument. WeChat has always been part of Tencent. It was piggybacking on the infra of what was already one of the biggest tech companies in the world. That's like comparing the number of Gmail employees to Twitter, sure it serves lots of users, but it doesn't have to worry about so much of what a standalone company has to deal with
    - Consultant32452 4y ago
      Twitter may be its own best argument. Twitter had 1,000 employees in 2012 and 200M MAUs. They only have about 50% more MAUs now, 10 years later.
      - sidibe 4y ago
        They weren't making money with those 1000 employees, either. Revenue 10X'd since then (along with cost). WhatsApp/YouTube were in the same boat when purchased. Good at getting active users but monetizing takes a lot of employees and they hadn't tackled that yet when acquired
edmundsauto 4y ago
Internal reps for large advertisers and agencies alone would exceed that number. Long tail advertisers can self-serve, but ad platforms need their whales and whales expect inside reps.
- bushbaba 4y ago
  Depends what kind of ads. Targeted advertising sure. But simple brand ads campaigns don’t need that large of staffing.
  - edmundsauto 4y ago
    I posit brand ads require more staffing, because they require more sales efforts to get advertisers to buy. Direct response is easier to measure the ROAS, but for brand ads, it's a really good idea to have someone selling ads constantly to your existing clients. Otherwise, many clients in the mid-size space ($100k-$5M/year, approximately) probably can't measure their return, which means those budgets are always at risk of being cut. With direct response, even data-naive decision makers can figure the value of.
tdeck 4y ago
According to Wikipedia WeChat's parent company Tencent had 112,000 employees in 2021. That company has many different products, but where does the 1,400 number come from?

halfmatthalfcat 4y ago

Your username justifies this take lol

Consultant32452 4y ago
WeChat does push to talk voice chat, image sharing like snapchat, broadcast messaging, video conferencing, video sharing, and digital payments. What is Twitter doing behind the scenes that justifies multiple times the amount of employees at WeChat?
- sidibe 4y ago
  WhatsApp is your strongest argument. WeChat has always been part of Tencent. It was piggybacking on the infra of what was already one of the biggest tech companies in the world. That's like comparing the number of Gmail employees to Twitter, sure it serves lots of users, but it doesn't have to worry about so much of what a standalone company has to deal with
  - Consultant32452 4y ago
    Twitter may be its own best argument. Twitter had 1,000 employees in 2012 and 200M MAUs. They only have about 50% more MAUs now, 10 years later.
    - sidibe 4y ago
      They weren't making money with those 1000 employees, either. Revenue 10X'd since then (along with cost). WhatsApp/YouTube were in the same boat when purchased. Good at getting active users but monetizing takes a lot of employees and they hadn't tackled that yet when acquired

edmundsauto 4y ago

Internal reps for large advertisers and agencies alone would exceed that number. Long tail advertisers can self-serve, but ad platforms need their whales and whales expect inside reps.

bushbaba 4y ago
Depends what kind of ads. Targeted advertising sure. But simple brand ads campaigns don’t need that large of staffing.
- edmundsauto 4y ago
  I posit brand ads require more staffing, because they require more sales efforts to get advertisers to buy. Direct response is easier to measure the ROAS, but for brand ads, it's a really good idea to have someone selling ads constantly to your existing clients. Otherwise, many clients in the mid-size space ($100k-$5M/year, approximately) probably can't measure their return, which means those budgets are always at risk of being cut. With direct response, even data-naive decision makers can figure the value of.

tdeck 4y ago

According to Wikipedia WeChat's parent company Tencent had 112,000 employees in 2021. That company has many different products, but where does the 1,400 number come from?