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The management is worried about internal sabotage? My Twitter friends said Twitter has been having large exodus. CSL(core systems lib?) team, blobstore team, g
by hintymad 4y ago
The management is worried about internal sabotage?
My Twitter friends said Twitter has been having large exodus. CSL(core systems lib?) team, blobstore team, graph platform team, and revenue forecasting team seemed have all quit. I'm not sure how robust and autonomous Twitter's infra is. Hopefully Twitter will continue to function.
- Aaron2222 4y agoIt definitely feels like internal sabotage at the moment...
- yrgulation 4y agoHow is abandoning a mad boss sabotage? Those people are my new heroes. They clearly send a message to anyone in the industry trying to emulate musk, that if you mess around you find out.
- janalsncm 4y agoI read it as Musk sabotaging it himself.
- vkou 4y agoBy whom, Musk? Because while particular actions he's taken in the past few weeks may be justifiable in certain contexts, all of them taken together can only be interpreted as an attempt to set 44 billion dollars on fire.
- Aaron2222 4y agoYeah, I meant internal sabotage by Musk.
- rsynnott 4y agoWeird new CEO fires half the company, then demands a _loyalty pledge_, like a common Henry VIII. Sensibly, everyone quits. I mean, the only saboteur there is the leadership.
- ShredKazoo 4y ago[flagged]
- dfghbbjiiugb 4y agoWhy would you assume it's about politics instead of the whole "shitty asshole boss who has open contempt for you and your coworkers, who is promising to massively overwork you, who might fire you any moment and has already fired half your peers"? I think you'd have to be completely insane to want to work there right now.
- ilyt 4y agoWell, there was twitter drama that preceded elon's buying twitter, and there was clearly a lot of employees pushing their politics using it. Hell, we got recent thread about how Japanese Twitter changed the moment the "moderation" got kicked out. But yeah, asshole boss gonna be #1 cause here with literally anything else being barely related.
- smcl 4y agoYou're putting a lot of stock into this idea that the root cause is some left-leaning employees. I don't buy it whatsoever. But even if we assumed it true (it's not), if you bought a company where the employees hate[0] you and you immediately start antagonising them doesn't that indicate that you were the problem? [0] - I don't believe this is true either. As I said in another comment, not everyone likes their boss. But many people at Twitter liked their jobs and their colleagues, and probably would've tolerated some cringe-y Musk tweets or a change in direction. But my sense is that when Musk started firing people (either en-masse or individually, like the guy patiently explaining the "1000 RPC calls" thing) that's when the mood shifted to "fuck this guy, and fuck this company"
- Aaron2222 4y agoIt appears I wasn't paritually clear. I meant Elon Musk is the one commiting internal sabotage.
- thereare5lights 4y agoSo is this ignorance or malice?
- memish 4y agoFTX had like 20 employees, how many could Twitter possibly need? /s
- kumarvvr 4y agoWow. There was a tweet recently that the engineers of the core critical systems have left. Twitter is just basically coasting around. What a sudden turn of events and destruction of this magnitude. Personally, I believe that the crash and burn of Twitter and the rise of a better SM in its place has very low probability, but one can hope.
- halfmatthalfcat 4y agoI remember getting into Sangria (Scala's GraphQL implementation) for the first time a couple years ago and seeing Twitter devs helping contribute to the lib. Was excited to see Twitter push that envelope. Now sad to see it all go away.
- bydlocoder 4y agoTwitter is one the few Scala shops around, would be sad to lose it.
- threeseed 4y agoThe Scala community is so small that I know the names of almost all of the top engineers many of whom worked at Twitter. The idea that they are just going to find dozens of them is hilariously insane.
- bydlocoder 4y agoThey should hire @jdegoes to save Twitter from the heresy of their Java++ ways.
- halfmatthalfcat 4y agoImagine him and Elon in a room. Their combined egos would create a singularity and we'd all die.
- TheFattestNinja 4y agoShameless plug but Morgan Stanley FID tech does some pretty unique and advanced work on Scala (Optimus).
- threeseed 4y agoThere's reports the NOC and SREs have all left as well. Surely an outage is right around the corner.
- klooney 4y agoThe first deployment from a newly hired SRE with no old heads to explain all the undocumented sharp edges. Oh boy.
- mrguyorama 4y agoEven better, how the fuck do you triage a system you've never touched before, that most likely is overengineered to hell and back, while the guys responsible for getting you splunk creds are still trying to find out who can give them THEIR creds to get in themselves.
- klooney 4y agoI feel like it might be fun, honestly. I love a good murder mystery. I wonder if they'll pay Netflix money when things start falling down.
- Dudelander 4y agoWorld Cup starts on the 20th. We'll see what happens then.
- threeseed 4y agoDon't even need to wait until then. Apparently the entire payroll team has quit. Surely more resignations are coming.
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- ilyt 4y agoWell, if your systems are managed well they shouldn't just fall apart in a week without ops, but Murphy's a bitch
- ineedasername 4y ago>Hopefully Twitter will continue to function. When I first heard about twitter I thought 1) that’s a dumb idea and 2) it won’t last long. I was of course very wrong about #2 but feel increasingly right about #1 the more time goes by and the more (IMO) it provides net harm to society and social discourse. So I’m sympathetic to the employees stuck there but hoping my timeline for #2 was simply way off and it finally goes away.
- voakbasda 4y agoNature abhors a vacuum. Something will take its place, and I personally would bet that it will suck even worse.
- westhom 4y agoIt makes me wonder how much “infrastructure runway” a company like Twitter has. If every engineer resigns, how long will it take before the infrastructure stops working autonomously… server/DB hard drives fill up or crash, PSUs die, high maintenance processes grind to a haunt, network capacity stops scaling, etc.
- rwmj 4y agoI think we're going to find out in the next few days, but if you believe this graph the signs are not encouraging (NB: this appears to be self-reported outages so I'm not sure that it is trustworthy): https://downdetector.co.uk/status/twitter/ https://downdetector.co.uk/status/twitter/
- thrwyoilarticle 4y agoI thought this graph is just a visitor counter for the page?
- absrd 4y agothe reports are up > 20x from baseline, twitter traffic is nowhere close to that multiple
- ryanSrich 4y agoMy guess is a few weeks if that. However, the World Cup is starting this weekend, and Twitter will see heavy traffic spikes. I assume in the chaos that has been the last month they’ve failed to properly account for this. Maybe I’m wrong, but if Twitter holds up through this weekend it’ll be a clear sign they had way too many employees.
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