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My guess is they are spending R&D money on better/simpler/cheaper EUV light sources, so expanding production capacity of existing models isn't a great idea. Sp
by phkahler 4y ago
My guess is they are spending R&D money on better/simpler/cheaper EUV light sources, so expanding production capacity of existing models isn't a great idea.
Specifically my guess (and I'm no expert) is a plasma wakefield accelerator feeding a free electron laser to get tunable wavelength EUV light far cheaper and simpler than what they've got now. Tons of work to do to get there, but that's always been the case in thier business. Also, if they don't do it someone else might and then they'd be dead.
There are other R&D areas to be handled too. One might ask why not spend more on the R&D, but they are probably at some kind of practical limit there too.
- usehand 4y ago> Specifically my guess (and I'm no expert) is a plasma wakefield accelerator feeding a free electron laser to get tunable wavelength EUV light far cheaper and simpler than what they've got now Don't you think they'll also be using a retro encabulator, with the modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and capacitive directance being used to generate the EUV light?
- throwaway773748 4y agoI honestly can not tell if this is a serious question or a joke throwing around physics techno babble... Maybe this is how business people feel when we try to explain why some data somewhere is out of sync because of system problems.
- usehand 4y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w (:
- exikyut 4y agoI've just realized I really need to see this video re-shot next to a Shiny-Looking Thing at an ASML facility, preferably one with glowy lights emanating out of it somewhere. (I've also just realized at least 10 companies have probably re-shot this internally with their own equipment. Argh.)
- femto 4y agoOr the original paper. https://sci-hub.ru/https://doi.org/10.1049/sqj.1944.0033 https://sci-hub.ru/https://doi.org/10.1049/sqj.1944.0033
- beebeepka 4y agoAlmost disappointed you didn't mention a flux capacitor but I guess it would have been too obvious
- catoc 4y agoI was going to mention 'magneto-reluctance' but you covered that as well! Wish I could upvote tenfold to further increase your customer focus on operator excellence.
- prox 4y agoYes, but only if they can prevent side fumbling, using state of the art hydrocoptic marzul vanes.
- Animats 4y agoIs anybody close to making that work? The idea was proposed around 2014, but it doesn't seem that anyone has built it.[1] You can use a big accelerator as a EUV light source. The SLAC beamline was once used to test the concept. Medium sized (160m circumference) synchrotrons have been suggested.[2] One appears to be under construction in China. A plasma wakefield accelerator is a proposed way to shrink a powerful accelerator down to a more manageable size. Maybe. There's a project underway to use about a third of the 2-mile long SLAC beamline in this mode. ASML made zapping a droplet of molten tin with lasers work as an EUV source. That's a nightmare. This approach may or may not be better. It involves zapping a high-pressure gas with lasers. All the known ways to do this are insanely expensive and look more like physics experiments than production equipment. A clean light source, where you put electricity in and get EUV out, would be easier to work with. There was talk of "table top synchrotrons" a few years back. One startup built one, although it was more like garage-sized. [1] https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/high-power-laser-science-and-engineering/article/conceptual-designs-of-a-laser-plasma-acceleratorbased-euvfel-and-an-alloptical-gammabeam-source/639184FCB8644B0BAD7F315B1DAE209E https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/high-power-laser-sci... [2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35228673/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35228673/ [3] https://www6.slac.stanford.edu/news/2020-10-12-slac-starts-new-facility-revolutionize-particle-accelerators https://www6.slac.stanford.edu/news/2020-10-12-slac-starts-n...
- sllabres 4y agoCant answer the question and my knowledge is only from 'one interested' but from how long (~20 years) it took to build the current EUV source and how complicated the alternatives look this is for sure no easy feat. Can recommend [1] as the title say about the light source. Very interesting even for a non professional (and [2] as on high level overview of the machine and [3] as longer documentation inside ASML). [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ge2RcvDlgw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ge2RcvDlgw "The Extreme Engineering of ASML’s EUV Light Source" [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0gMdGrVteI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0gMdGrVteI "The Extreme Physics Pushing Moore’s Law to the Next Level" [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQu_TMgHO98 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQu_TMgHO98 "ASML's Secret: An exclusive view from inside the global semiconductor giant"
- benj111 4y ago>plasma wakefield accelerator Is this named after the town, a person, or just 'wake' and 'field'? Please be the town. If Wakefield can get in on the plasma accelerator sexyness, there's hope for all boring northern towns. Dewsbury fusion here we come.
- throwaway4good 4y agoWhich competitor is pushing ASML to spend more on R&D?
- phkahler 4y agoChina.