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I was checking the ASML technology page[0] as I haven't heard of them before, it was funny seeing that they are a bleeding-edge tech company and they have an im

by XCSme 4y ago

I was checking the ASML technology page[0] as I haven't heard of them before, it was funny seeing that they are a bleeding-edge tech company and they have an image showing jQuery code next to a paragraph about their software: https://i.snipboard.io/pUT4ot.jpg https://i.snipboard.io/pUT4ot.jpg [0]: https://www.asml.com/en/technology https://www.asml.com/en/technology

troymc 4y ago
I'm guessing that the page designer just went to a stock photo site, did a search for "code" or something similar, found that image, licensed it, and inserted it. Job done! I asked TinEye [1] where I can get that stock photo. It turns out you can get it at most of the big stock photo sites. For example, here it is on Shutterstock: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/software-source-code-programming-on-computer-634574354 https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/software-source-cod... [1] https://tineye.com/ https://tineye.com/
jimmaswell 4y ago
There's nothing wrong with using jQuery, especially if you target old browsers or use some of its features that are still more convenient than the ES6 equivalent.
- XCSme 4y ago
  Agree, but I don't think that jQuery really represents the core of their software, I find it funny how big the discrepancy between the text and the image is.
yucky 4y ago
Even calling them a bleeding edge tech company is selling them short. They are the only company in the world that can do what they do. Their website could have pictures of clowns in cars on it, and it wouldn't matter.
baybal2 4y ago
jxy 4y ago
It tells that their marketing department is far from their software department. Their lithography rules, and their software is likely a second class citizen.
weatherlite 4y ago
How dare they not show a ninja library like React with Redux + Redux Saga + Reselect sprinkled on top. You know - for state management and "full state debuggability". You gotta manage that state. I mean what else - display a simple page with plain JS? Just render html on the server?? That's crazy.
- ununoctium87 4y ago
  Front end JavaScript sure sounds like pay to win games on the AppStore nowadays…
- skrebbel 4y ago
  It’s not about the framework. It should’ve been C code representative of the stuff that goes into ASML machines. If I was a junior programmer considering to apply at ASML this picture would give me “ok these folks don’t understand software” vibes.
  - BoorishBears 4y ago
    And not the fact they literally refer to software as the Robin to their Batman?
  - MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
    Like all hardware companies, they don’t. Making changes is difficult because there are no unit tests etc pp.
    - skrebbel 4y ago
      Plenty hardware companies are chock full of unit tests, hardware simulators in-the-loop at multiple levels of abstraction etc etc. I worked at Canon (back then Océ, ie huge pro printers) a long time ago and they had this shit all over. I’ve also seen a litho startup run load tests on the day the hardware was first in one piece, ie the software worked acceptably from day one (incl all the error recovery, edge cases etc etc) because all the hardware had been simulated in software in parallel with it being designed and built. ASML is not one of these companies.
kabes 4y ago
Maybe they're to busy being one of the most important companies in the world to care about something like this.
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by XCSme 4y ago

troymc 4y ago

I'm guessing that the page designer just went to a stock photo site, did a search for "code" or something similar, found that image, licensed it, and inserted it. Job done! I asked TinEye [1] where I can get that stock photo. It turns out you can get it at most of the big stock photo sites. For example, here it is on Shutterstock: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/software-source-code-programming-on-computer-634574354 https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/software-source-cod... [1] https://tineye.com/ https://tineye.com/

jimmaswell 4y ago

There's nothing wrong with using jQuery, especially if you target old browsers or use some of its features that are still more convenient than the ES6 equivalent.

XCSme 4y ago
Agree, but I don't think that jQuery really represents the core of their software, I find it funny how big the discrepancy between the text and the image is.

yucky 4y ago

Even calling them a bleeding edge tech company is selling them short. They are the only company in the world that can do what they do. Their website could have pictures of clowns in cars on it, and it wouldn't matter.

baybal2 4y ago

jxy 4y ago

It tells that their marketing department is far from their software department. Their lithography rules, and their software is likely a second class citizen.

weatherlite 4y ago

How dare they not show a ninja library like React with Redux + Redux Saga + Reselect sprinkled on top. You know - for state management and "full state debuggability". You gotta manage that state. I mean what else - display a simple page with plain JS? Just render html on the server?? That's crazy.

ununoctium87 4y ago
Front end JavaScript sure sounds like pay to win games on the AppStore nowadays…
skrebbel 4y ago
It’s not about the framework. It should’ve been C code representative of the stuff that goes into ASML machines. If I was a junior programmer considering to apply at ASML this picture would give me “ok these folks don’t understand software” vibes.
- BoorishBears 4y ago
  And not the fact they literally refer to software as the Robin to their Batman?
- MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
  Like all hardware companies, they don’t. Making changes is difficult because there are no unit tests etc pp.
  - skrebbel 4y ago
    Plenty hardware companies are chock full of unit tests, hardware simulators in-the-loop at multiple levels of abstraction etc etc. I worked at Canon (back then Océ, ie huge pro printers) a long time ago and they had this shit all over. I’ve also seen a litho startup run load tests on the day the hardware was first in one piece, ie the software worked acceptably from day one (incl all the error recovery, edge cases etc etc) because all the hardware had been simulated in software in parallel with it being designed and built. ASML is not one of these companies.

kabes 4y ago

Maybe they're to busy being one of the most important companies in the world to care about something like this.

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