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I think it's interesting these threads (and others) focus on pretty much just engineers as opposed to the massive hits to HR and related divisions. [0,1] I kno

I think it's interesting these threads (and others) focus on pretty much just engineers as opposed to the massive hits to HR and related divisions. [0,1] I know a number of engineers who would privately admit a Twitter with fewer HR types would be a better place to work, not worse. I'm not sure the dire predictions are going to come true. Then again, I'm not an oracle, and of course I know many who would be (publicly) happy to take the severance and run. [0] https://fortune.com/2022/11/16/tech-layoffs-human-resources-diversity-dei-teams/ https://fortune.com/2022/11/16/tech-layoffs-human-resources-... [1] https://archive.ph/Zn0Sx https://archive.ph/Zn0Sx

ummonk 4y ago
That's because this thread is discussing Twitter's new work conditions and severance offers, which are leading to many engineers quitting (on top of those that were already fired). It's different from the broader industry where more superfluous roles were targeted for layoffs.
stu2b50 4y ago
While possible, I'm not sure an HR reduction in combination with 70% of your peer engineers resigning is exactly what those Twitter engineers considered.
asdajksah2123 4y ago
> I know a number of engineers who would privately admit a Twitter with fewer HR types would be a better place to work, not worse. I would not be surprised if this is the case in 90% of companies. And it's because in most cases employees don't understand the role of HR. It has nothing to do with making employees lives better, and everything to do with making interactions with employees most profitable for the company and protecting the company from employees and their actions.
viridian 4y ago
HR ultimately exists to provide some massive amount of value to the company, otherwise they wouldn't exist. The question then is what value do they deliver? If the low-level humans serving as resources don't know what that value is, the odds are that HR's existence is not to their benefit.

ummonk 4y ago

That's because this thread is discussing Twitter's new work conditions and severance offers, which are leading to many engineers quitting (on top of those that were already fired). It's different from the broader industry where more superfluous roles were targeted for layoffs.

stu2b50 4y ago

While possible, I'm not sure an HR reduction in combination with 70% of your peer engineers resigning is exactly what those Twitter engineers considered.

asdajksah2123 4y ago

> I know a number of engineers who would privately admit a Twitter with fewer HR types would be a better place to work, not worse. I would not be surprised if this is the case in 90% of companies. And it's because in most cases employees don't understand the role of HR. It has nothing to do with making employees lives better, and everything to do with making interactions with employees most profitable for the company and protecting the company from employees and their actions.

viridian 4y ago

HR ultimately exists to provide some massive amount of value to the company, otherwise they wouldn't exist. The question then is what value do they deliver? If the low-level humans serving as resources don't know what that value is, the odds are that HR's existence is not to their benefit.