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> I am able to squeeze 5% more battery from a MacBook Air 11'' Late 2012 using Linux vs macOS. > The key aspect is to [...] use no desktop environment, [...]

by tpush 4y ago

> I am able to squeeze 5% more battery from a MacBook Air 11'' Late 2012 using Linux vs macOS. > The key aspect is to [...] use no desktop environment, [...] Is this satire?

nextos 4y ago
No, it's not. Keep in mind in Linux, desktop environment means a big framework such as GNOME or KDE that runs on top of X or Wayland, i.e. a graphics server. You can run bare X or Wayland, plus a window manager and cherry-picked daemons, to achieve the same sort of functionality e.g. desktop notifications, network roaming or device automounting. My point is that bare X plus cherry-picked services tends to be much more efficient, because you don't need to pay a performance tax for the things you don't use.
- nazgulsenpai 4y ago
  Not sure why you're being down voted when a lot of us just use X with a window manager instead of a full fat DE.
  - nextos 4y ago
    Me neither. Sadly, I think some users think no desktop environment means no graphics at all, or perhaps a very primitive graphical setup.
    - jnk345u8dfg9hjk 4y ago
      I'm an i3 elitist myself, but I think you're missing the point that not everyone wants i3
  - solardev 4y ago
    I feel like I'm watching cult members nodding at each other and wondering "why don't they get it, it's so obvious!" while everyone outside just backs away slooowly...
- solardev 4y ago
  Mac: Battery life sucks, let's make our own chip to make it better Windows: Battery life sucks, we'll try to improve the software and maybe use a different CPU Linux: Just turn off your desktop and recreate its functionality using a dozen command line daemons and selectively run graphics only when you need it. It worked in DOS, why not now? lol and we wonder why desktop Linux never came... I've seen a lot of Linux apologetics over the years, but this is the single funniest comment I've ever read on the topic
  - darthrupert 4y ago
    You're not understanding the point at all. The best Linux environments lose the complexity without losing functionality. Sure, the setup might require some skill, but professional, high quality tools always do.
  - bilekas 4y ago
    This did give me a chuckle! I think the user base is different though from the OP.
TylerE 4y ago
No, it’s the “fuck off”

by tpush 4y ago

> I am able to squeeze 5% more battery from a MacBook Air 11'' Late 2012 using Linux vs macOS. > The key aspect is to [...] use no desktop environment, [...] Is this satire?

nextos 4y ago

No, it's not. Keep in mind in Linux, desktop environment means a big framework such as GNOME or KDE that runs on top of X or Wayland, i.e. a graphics server. You can run bare X or Wayland, plus a window manager and cherry-picked daemons, to achieve the same sort of functionality e.g. desktop notifications, network roaming or device automounting. My point is that bare X plus cherry-picked services tends to be much more efficient, because you don't need to pay a performance tax for the things you don't use.

nazgulsenpai 4y ago
Not sure why you're being down voted when a lot of us just use X with a window manager instead of a full fat DE.
- nextos 4y ago
  Me neither. Sadly, I think some users think no desktop environment means no graphics at all, or perhaps a very primitive graphical setup.
  - jnk345u8dfg9hjk 4y ago
    I'm an i3 elitist myself, but I think you're missing the point that not everyone wants i3
- solardev 4y ago
  I feel like I'm watching cult members nodding at each other and wondering "why don't they get it, it's so obvious!" while everyone outside just backs away slooowly...
solardev 4y ago
Mac: Battery life sucks, let's make our own chip to make it better Windows: Battery life sucks, we'll try to improve the software and maybe use a different CPU Linux: Just turn off your desktop and recreate its functionality using a dozen command line daemons and selectively run graphics only when you need it. It worked in DOS, why not now? lol and we wonder why desktop Linux never came... I've seen a lot of Linux apologetics over the years, but this is the single funniest comment I've ever read on the topic
- darthrupert 4y ago
  You're not understanding the point at all. The best Linux environments lose the complexity without losing functionality. Sure, the setup might require some skill, but professional, high quality tools always do.
- bilekas 4y ago
  This did give me a chuckle! I think the user base is different though from the OP.

TylerE 4y ago

No, it’s the “fuck off”