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There are companies in the SW industry that require 40h/week and actually monitor that (e.g. collecting metrics in 10-minute intervals and rejecting intervals w

by bitL 4y ago

There are companies in the SW industry that require 40h/week and actually monitor that (e.g. collecting metrics in 10-minute intervals and rejecting intervals with low intensity levels).

quickthrower2 4y ago
That might be Twitter … by Monday morning
- bitL 4y ago
  Twitter will get 12-hour shifts common in Tesla instead...
DiggyJohnson 4y ago
In the US? That sounds bananas to me.
- deleted 4y ago
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- scaramanga 4y ago
  Not to mention illegal in the EU.
  - bitL 4y ago
    Not if they only do business in the EU with legal entities like freelancers or small limited-liability pass-through companies where there is no weekly time limit for the owner nor the "no monitoring" requirement.
- bitL 4y ago
  BTW, most FAANG companies monitor and record everything you are doing, you just don't hear about it because they are smart about it. But when SHTF, you learn very quickly. Also ask Meta devs about their typical workload if they want to keep their jobs (they actually have to work).
dbetteridge 4y ago
Got a list? Just so I know which companies to avoid like the plague. Sometimes I'll wander round the house and read docs or make notes on my tablet while doing housework, still contributing to future work/planning but definitely would show as 'inactive'.
- bitL 4y ago
  I am sure those companies won't pop on your radar but they will for Indians and other foreigners that want to earn average US salary in their own countries. And yes, you should completely avoid them, they have typically terrible reviews and treat devs as machines. I know one UK dev who took a job in one of those, moved there from some hotel booking company, earned $200k, lasted almost 2 years and then got unceremoniously sacked right when one of his close family members passed away due to missing required metrics.
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    There is one that advertises heavily and comes up on job searches. I don't recall the name, but you can tell because of the weird range of salaries, like $50k for a developer while paying $300k for the manager. When I dug in I saw they use this kind of tracking software.
    - bitL 4y ago
      Yeah, could be one of those. Anyway, the rule is to stay away even if they offer $400k/year ;-)

by bitL 4y ago

There are companies in the SW industry that require 40h/week and actually monitor that (e.g. collecting metrics in 10-minute intervals and rejecting intervals with low intensity levels).

quickthrower2 4y ago

That might be Twitter … by Monday morning

bitL 4y ago
Twitter will get 12-hour shifts common in Tesla instead...

DiggyJohnson 4y ago

In the US? That sounds bananas to me.

deleted 4y ago
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scaramanga 4y ago
Not to mention illegal in the EU.
- bitL 4y ago
  Not if they only do business in the EU with legal entities like freelancers or small limited-liability pass-through companies where there is no weekly time limit for the owner nor the "no monitoring" requirement.
bitL 4y ago
BTW, most FAANG companies monitor and record everything you are doing, you just don't hear about it because they are smart about it. But when SHTF, you learn very quickly. Also ask Meta devs about their typical workload if they want to keep their jobs (they actually have to work).

dbetteridge 4y ago

Got a list? Just so I know which companies to avoid like the plague. Sometimes I'll wander round the house and read docs or make notes on my tablet while doing housework, still contributing to future work/planning but definitely would show as 'inactive'.

bitL 4y ago
I am sure those companies won't pop on your radar but they will for Indians and other foreigners that want to earn average US salary in their own countries. And yes, you should completely avoid them, they have typically terrible reviews and treat devs as machines. I know one UK dev who took a job in one of those, moved there from some hotel booking company, earned $200k, lasted almost 2 years and then got unceremoniously sacked right when one of his close family members passed away due to missing required metrics.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  There is one that advertises heavily and comes up on job searches. I don't recall the name, but you can tell because of the weird range of salaries, like $50k for a developer while paying $300k for the manager. When I dug in I saw they use this kind of tracking software.
  - bitL 4y ago
    Yeah, could be one of those. Anyway, the rule is to stay away even if they offer $400k/year ;-)