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I’ve always found it funny people think GDPR matters outside of the EU. You cannot regulate a steel manufacturer in China from the EU. Similarly, you cannot re

I’ve always found it funny people think GDPR matters outside of the EU. You cannot regulate a steel manufacturer in China from the EU. Similarly, you cannot regulate how a company and server is setup in another country. It’s where the company is operating. In the case of hacker news the CCPA probably does have an impact. So i suspect they follow the appropriate law there. That’s because that’s where they are operating out of. That said, HN is moderated pretty well. I suspect if you ask them they’ll tell you and / or delete what ever you ask.

cbg0 4y ago
That's a very poor analogy, as you can put tariffs on Chinese steel and disallow imports unless they adhere to EU standards.
- lettergram 4y ago
  That's not regulating the production of steel, but adding a tariff on an industry. You could obviously block someone from selling in your country, but that doesn't mean you have the right to regulate them. Just like you could block a website within your country. That said, you can't force them to adhere to anything. Put a different way, if I run a news paper in Russia, sure you can block the distribution in the EU. The EU cannot tell the news paper what to publish.
jeroenhd 4y ago
HN is part of YCombinator which does business in Europe (see: https://www.ycombinator.com/companies?regions=Europe https://www.ycombinator.com/companies?regions=Europe). Companies doing business in Europe must follow European law, just like European companies doing business in the USA need to follow American law. The solution is quite obvious: don't do business with Europe and the GDPR doesn't apply. Don't do business with the USA (including companies like Amazon and Google) and American law doesn't apply. The EU won't try to fine Walmart and Target, the USA probably won't try to fine Système U. (Unless it's about oil, government influence, or copyright infringement, of course, then the USA will force the issue; probably not relevant for most companies)
- lettergram 4y ago
  lol ycombinator investing in companies is not the same as "doing business".
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
  The EU is desperate to get the sort of funding YC provides so they would never say "no".

cbg0 4y ago

That's a very poor analogy, as you can put tariffs on Chinese steel and disallow imports unless they adhere to EU standards.

lettergram 4y ago
That's not regulating the production of steel, but adding a tariff on an industry. You could obviously block someone from selling in your country, but that doesn't mean you have the right to regulate them. Just like you could block a website within your country. That said, you can't force them to adhere to anything. Put a different way, if I run a news paper in Russia, sure you can block the distribution in the EU. The EU cannot tell the news paper what to publish.

jeroenhd 4y ago

HN is part of YCombinator which does business in Europe (see: https://www.ycombinator.com/companies?regions=Europe https://www.ycombinator.com/companies?regions=Europe). Companies doing business in Europe must follow European law, just like European companies doing business in the USA need to follow American law. The solution is quite obvious: don't do business with Europe and the GDPR doesn't apply. Don't do business with the USA (including companies like Amazon and Google) and American law doesn't apply. The EU won't try to fine Walmart and Target, the USA probably won't try to fine Système U. (Unless it's about oil, government influence, or copyright infringement, of course, then the USA will force the issue; probably not relevant for most companies)

lettergram 4y ago
lol ycombinator investing in companies is not the same as "doing business".
Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
The EU is desperate to get the sort of funding YC provides so they would never say "no".