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>So why aren't these companies being held accountable for fuelling the climate crisis? Probably because food is non-negotiable and most people are not willing

>So why aren't these companies being held accountable for fuelling the climate crisis? Probably because food is non-negotiable and most people are not willing to switch to a plant-based diet. At least with energy production, there are comparable alternatives to fossil fuels: solar, wind, and nuclear. With food, there is simply not a comparable alternative to meat. The solution is a compelling meat substitute.

doener 4y ago
>With food, there is simply not a comparable alternative to meat. For the fillet mignon of top gastronomy maybe not (although I can recommend everyone to try Juicy Marbles: https://www.cnet.com/home/juicy-marbles-review/ https://www.cnet.com/home/juicy-marbles-review/). For the burger, which are eaten quickly in between? Definitely. And that is definitely the very largest part of meat consumption worldwide. I don't think most people would even notice if the burger patty, bursting with sauce, was replaced by Beyond Meat or Impossible Meat.
- marginalia_nu 4y ago
  Eh, I don't think most people's diet consists of hamburgers. Or rather, I sure hope it doesn't.
- snapplebobapple 4y ago
  I tried the beyond meat offerings by the various burger joints when they came out and I can tell you that if you think the above is true you need to eat some more meat to refresh your memory (not to mention the brain fog and gassy belly I got from some of those offerings).
teilo 4y ago
Because for the most part, meat is carbon neutral. Meat is not and has never been the problem. Look at it from the standpoint of the carbon cycle. For example, where does the carbon in the methane originate? It is carbon that originated in plant matter consumed by cattle. It originates in the atmosphere, and goes back to the atmosphere. We do not feed petroleum or coal to cows. So net-carbon increase from cattle production is very minimal. Going after foot production is insane.
- badtension 4y ago
  Methane production and the supply chain and storage emissions are real though.
- hypertele-Xii 4y ago
  > We do not feed petroleum to cows. Yeah, we do. Cow feed is grown with petrolium-based fertilizer. Eating a cow that ate plants will always consume more fertilizer and therefore petrolium than just eating the plants directly, because the cow is less than 100% efficient.

doener 4y ago

>With food, there is simply not a comparable alternative to meat. For the fillet mignon of top gastronomy maybe not (although I can recommend everyone to try Juicy Marbles: https://www.cnet.com/home/juicy-marbles-review/ https://www.cnet.com/home/juicy-marbles-review/). For the burger, which are eaten quickly in between? Definitely. And that is definitely the very largest part of meat consumption worldwide. I don't think most people would even notice if the burger patty, bursting with sauce, was replaced by Beyond Meat or Impossible Meat.

marginalia_nu 4y ago
Eh, I don't think most people's diet consists of hamburgers. Or rather, I sure hope it doesn't.
snapplebobapple 4y ago
I tried the beyond meat offerings by the various burger joints when they came out and I can tell you that if you think the above is true you need to eat some more meat to refresh your memory (not to mention the brain fog and gassy belly I got from some of those offerings).

teilo 4y ago

Because for the most part, meat is carbon neutral. Meat is not and has never been the problem. Look at it from the standpoint of the carbon cycle. For example, where does the carbon in the methane originate? It is carbon that originated in plant matter consumed by cattle. It originates in the atmosphere, and goes back to the atmosphere. We do not feed petroleum or coal to cows. So net-carbon increase from cattle production is very minimal. Going after foot production is insane.

badtension 4y ago
Methane production and the supply chain and storage emissions are real though.
hypertele-Xii 4y ago
> We do not feed petroleum to cows. Yeah, we do. Cow feed is grown with petrolium-based fertilizer. Eating a cow that ate plants will always consume more fertilizer and therefore petrolium than just eating the plants directly, because the cow is less than 100% efficient.