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"pricing" "telemetry" Moving on.

ethanbond 4y ago
Telemetry is definitely a no-go for a tool like this, but professional engineers (usually very highly paid) really need to get over their free tool addiction. Good tools in every profession cost money. We'd probably get even better tools if creators knew they could earn some money for delivering value.
- wmf 4y ago
  Even worse, people are "willing" to pay for SaaS (because they have to) but refuse to pay for local tools. You don't like telemetry? Just wait until the mighty future where literally everything is remote and your computer is just a thin client.
- mongol 4y ago
  Would be interesting to read what are highly regarded tools in different occupations. For example, I read that a particular type of whiteboard chalk was highly regarded by mathematicians.
rubberduckiee 4y ago
Jess from Warp here! Just wanted to clarify that Warp is completely free for single users :) And in terms of telemetry, Warp never sends the contents of terminal commands and outputs to our servers (unless a user explicitly chooses to use the "Block Sharing" feature). What Warp currently sends in regard to telemetry is listed here: https://docs.warp.dev/getting-started/privacy#exhaustive-telemetry-table https://docs.warp.dev/getting-started/privacy#exhaustive-tel... Hope that helps!
- i_am_proteus 4y ago
  It is not personal, but I do not trust you.
  - KyleBerezin 4y ago
    Someone on HN said something along the lines of "Trust is a last resort" and I find myself repeating it a lot.
    - Brian_K_White 4y ago
      The only people that deserve any trust prove it by never asking you to trust them.
lrvick 4y ago
There is not a universe that exists where I would give an unsigned, non-reproducibly-built, proprietary third party binary control of the terminal I use to access code and systems of my clients, or send a third party any data about them. It would be negligent on my part. Also most of the capable sysadmins and CLI junkies that I know use Linux. Not supporting that first is a strange choice. As cool as this idea is, I feel the only way I could ever responsibly have it is by ripping it off and actually making it open and available to all platforms.

Telemetry is definitely a no-go for a tool like this, but professional engineers (usually very highly paid) really need to get over their free tool addiction. Good tools in every profession cost money. We'd probably get even better tools if creators knew they could earn some money for delivering value.

wmf 4y ago
Even worse, people are "willing" to pay for SaaS (because they have to) but refuse to pay for local tools. You don't like telemetry? Just wait until the mighty future where literally everything is remote and your computer is just a thin client.
mongol 4y ago
Would be interesting to read what are highly regarded tools in different occupations. For example, I read that a particular type of whiteboard chalk was highly regarded by mathematicians.

rubberduckiee 4y ago

Jess from Warp here! Just wanted to clarify that Warp is completely free for single users :) And in terms of telemetry, Warp never sends the contents of terminal commands and outputs to our servers (unless a user explicitly chooses to use the "Block Sharing" feature). What Warp currently sends in regard to telemetry is listed here: https://docs.warp.dev/getting-started/privacy#exhaustive-telemetry-table https://docs.warp.dev/getting-started/privacy#exhaustive-tel... Hope that helps!

i_am_proteus 4y ago
It is not personal, but I do not trust you.
- KyleBerezin 4y ago
  Someone on HN said something along the lines of "Trust is a last resort" and I find myself repeating it a lot.
  - Brian_K_White 4y ago
    The only people that deserve any trust prove it by never asking you to trust them.

lrvick 4y ago

There is not a universe that exists where I would give an unsigned, non-reproducibly-built, proprietary third party binary control of the terminal I use to access code and systems of my clients, or send a third party any data about them. It would be negligent on my part. Also most of the capable sysadmins and CLI junkies that I know use Linux. Not supporting that first is a strange choice. As cool as this idea is, I feel the only way I could ever responsibly have it is by ripping it off and actually making it open and available to all platforms.