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All I want to know is where are the servers with the adults on them? I have enjoyed the more realistic FPS, but the kids running around everywhere just cussing

All I want to know is where are the servers with the adults on them? I have enjoyed the more realistic FPS, but the kids running around everywhere just cussing at everyone or using aimbots kind of kills the fun.

bovermyer 4y ago
This is why I don't play Call of Duty or other similar games. Overwatch and its successor/patch Overwatch 2 have had less toxicity compared to other FPSes I've played. And I've almost never encountered a cheater.
- Shared404 4y ago
  > Overwatch and its successor/patch Overwatch 2 have had less toxicity compared to other FPSes I've played. And I've almost never encountered a cheater. I've played OW off and on for years now, and have only seen two cheaters. One was using wallhacks (could see them tracking me back and forth behind a wall on the killcam) and one had incredibly blatant headsnapping (Genji with the worlds fastest sensitivity turning 180 degrees and landing a perfect headshot, repeatedly). A pretty good track record. Unfortunately, the monetization in OW2 has put me off. Hopefully that gets fixed eventually.
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  The Modern Warfare and later Call of Duty games, in particular, made some really frustrating design choices that amplify the difference between players. The powerful rewards you get for success can turn a close-enough-that-everyone's-still-having-fun match into a not-even-close misery-fest for the losing side. It's a hell of a dopamine hit when you're winning (which is why people like it) but it really messes with the balance of the games.
- GloriousKoji 4y ago
  My experience with Overwatch (1) is completely the opposite. In competitive queue there's blatant cheating about 1/20 games. Then there's the smurf problem where it might as well be considered cheating for about 1/10 games. Of course I report them and I see that thank you message about reporting but it feels like it hasn't done anything to curb reduce the numbers. Toxicity is the the inverse where 1/10 games feels like it's a match filled with rational minimally behaved adults. I pretty much stopped playing when Overwatch 2 came out.
  - bovermyer 4y ago
    That might be the difference between your experience and mine; I never play competitive, only open queue and arcade.
subjectsigma 4y ago
I am 100% resolute in my opinion that turning off comms in online games and treating your teammates as if they were really advanced bots improves every game. If I want to play a game with someone I will call my friends on Discord and ask if they want to play. nearly every game I play has a workable ping system so if I am playing with random players, that's how I communicate. Otherwise I don't want or need the validation or opinions of randoms. The small funny moments of friendship you might get from that is drowned underneath a torrent of racism, sexism, spite, anger, and random nonsense that is draining and, maybe more importantly, seriously distracting. Nearly every serious player I know will full mute even their friends during intense moments requiring mechanical skill. If you are 30+ and play competitive games to meet new people you are in the wrong place.
- Xeoncross 4y ago
  Yeah, I'm not looking for friends, just civil players. When I've played I've turned off comms, but kind of hard to ignore the aim bots and chat if you're at least trying to work with your team.
- kipchak 4y ago
  Maybe I'm being overly sensitive but knowing that people are yelling at me but I just cant hear them feels weird.
  - subjectsigma 4y ago
    The only game I play with any expectation of improving is League of Legends. In that community there's the concept of "mental," e.g. your ability to stay calm and think. Players will talk about "improving my mental" like they talk about practicing combos or learning more about game sense. As if they were Buddhist monks and not teenagers playing video games. I think this is because League is a uniquely frustrating game for the same reasons it can be uniquely rewarding: teamwork matters a lot. It is easy to get frustrated. It is very obvious that people who don't get frustrated easily perform better. If you're upset at the idea of people yelling at you then you just have weak mental and need to improve. Alternatively, you just might not enjoy that kind of ultra-competitive game and should find another game to play. Either one is absolutely fine.
doodlesdev 4y ago
Play Squad or some similar game such as Arma. Games that are a bit more slow paced attract older and more patient players. I could never go back to playing Call of Duty or Battlefield after playing some of the more strategic slow paced shooters.
programd 4y ago
I second some of the recommendations here for "Hell Let Loose" or "Squad" as places with a more mature player base. People communicate and cooperate much better in those games. Slower more cerebral gameplay though with occasional chaos, but very rewarding. For the more fast moving twitchy games these days I mostly don't care about my Kill/Death ratio that much. I like to just mess around and explore different tactics, try playing with only specific or unpopular weapons, outsmart other players, that kind of thing. It's easy to be a sniper and get head shots, much more fun to be a sniper and get sneaky headshots with a revolver. I'm much better at all that then twitch shooting. It's even more fun when some veteran pulls some clever tactic on you that you haven't thought of. Great opportunity to learn and pull it on some unsuspecting youngsters in turn. Much more fun then pure run-and-gun. Big open world games like Battlefield are great for messing around like that because the environment is complex and varied, and frankly nobody cares if their team wins or looses. So most people experiment and laugh at their failures. As always though there's a minority that are just dicks but they're easy to ignore. BTW, is it just me or is "Hell Let Loose" a direct descendent of the old Reality Mod in Battlefield 3? Some of the mechanics seem awfully similar.
johnchristopher 4y ago
Look for old school boards and websites ? I think there's a "dadgamer" reddit, maybe people ran into that problem. Personally, I got lucky this year by randomly picking up a server named "old guys" and I have only been playing there for months now.

bovermyer 4y ago

This is why I don't play Call of Duty or other similar games. Overwatch and its successor/patch Overwatch 2 have had less toxicity compared to other FPSes I've played. And I've almost never encountered a cheater.

Shared404 4y ago
> Overwatch and its successor/patch Overwatch 2 have had less toxicity compared to other FPSes I've played. And I've almost never encountered a cheater. I've played OW off and on for years now, and have only seen two cheaters. One was using wallhacks (could see them tracking me back and forth behind a wall on the killcam) and one had incredibly blatant headsnapping (Genji with the worlds fastest sensitivity turning 180 degrees and landing a perfect headshot, repeatedly). A pretty good track record. Unfortunately, the monetization in OW2 has put me off. Hopefully that gets fixed eventually.
yamtaddle 4y ago
The Modern Warfare and later Call of Duty games, in particular, made some really frustrating design choices that amplify the difference between players. The powerful rewards you get for success can turn a close-enough-that-everyone's-still-having-fun match into a not-even-close misery-fest for the losing side. It's a hell of a dopamine hit when you're winning (which is why people like it) but it really messes with the balance of the games.
GloriousKoji 4y ago
My experience with Overwatch (1) is completely the opposite. In competitive queue there's blatant cheating about 1/20 games. Then there's the smurf problem where it might as well be considered cheating for about 1/10 games. Of course I report them and I see that thank you message about reporting but it feels like it hasn't done anything to curb reduce the numbers. Toxicity is the the inverse where 1/10 games feels like it's a match filled with rational minimally behaved adults. I pretty much stopped playing when Overwatch 2 came out.
- bovermyer 4y ago
  That might be the difference between your experience and mine; I never play competitive, only open queue and arcade.

subjectsigma 4y ago

I am 100% resolute in my opinion that turning off comms in online games and treating your teammates as if they were really advanced bots improves every game. If I want to play a game with someone I will call my friends on Discord and ask if they want to play. nearly every game I play has a workable ping system so if I am playing with random players, that's how I communicate. Otherwise I don't want or need the validation or opinions of randoms. The small funny moments of friendship you might get from that is drowned underneath a torrent of racism, sexism, spite, anger, and random nonsense that is draining and, maybe more importantly, seriously distracting. Nearly every serious player I know will full mute even their friends during intense moments requiring mechanical skill. If you are 30+ and play competitive games to meet new people you are in the wrong place.

Xeoncross 4y ago
Yeah, I'm not looking for friends, just civil players. When I've played I've turned off comms, but kind of hard to ignore the aim bots and chat if you're at least trying to work with your team.
kipchak 4y ago
Maybe I'm being overly sensitive but knowing that people are yelling at me but I just cant hear them feels weird.
- subjectsigma 4y ago
  The only game I play with any expectation of improving is League of Legends. In that community there's the concept of "mental," e.g. your ability to stay calm and think. Players will talk about "improving my mental" like they talk about practicing combos or learning more about game sense. As if they were Buddhist monks and not teenagers playing video games. I think this is because League is a uniquely frustrating game for the same reasons it can be uniquely rewarding: teamwork matters a lot. It is easy to get frustrated. It is very obvious that people who don't get frustrated easily perform better. If you're upset at the idea of people yelling at you then you just have weak mental and need to improve. Alternatively, you just might not enjoy that kind of ultra-competitive game and should find another game to play. Either one is absolutely fine.

doodlesdev 4y ago

Play Squad or some similar game such as Arma. Games that are a bit more slow paced attract older and more patient players. I could never go back to playing Call of Duty or Battlefield after playing some of the more strategic slow paced shooters.

programd 4y ago

I second some of the recommendations here for "Hell Let Loose" or "Squad" as places with a more mature player base. People communicate and cooperate much better in those games. Slower more cerebral gameplay though with occasional chaos, but very rewarding. For the more fast moving twitchy games these days I mostly don't care about my Kill/Death ratio that much. I like to just mess around and explore different tactics, try playing with only specific or unpopular weapons, outsmart other players, that kind of thing. It's easy to be a sniper and get head shots, much more fun to be a sniper and get sneaky headshots with a revolver. I'm much better at all that then twitch shooting. It's even more fun when some veteran pulls some clever tactic on you that you haven't thought of. Great opportunity to learn and pull it on some unsuspecting youngsters in turn. Much more fun then pure run-and-gun. Big open world games like Battlefield are great for messing around like that because the environment is complex and varied, and frankly nobody cares if their team wins or looses. So most people experiment and laugh at their failures. As always though there's a minority that are just dicks but they're easy to ignore. BTW, is it just me or is "Hell Let Loose" a direct descendent of the old Reality Mod in Battlefield 3? Some of the mechanics seem awfully similar.

johnchristopher 4y ago

Look for old school boards and websites ? I think there's a "dadgamer" reddit, maybe people ran into that problem. Personally, I got lucky this year by randomly picking up a server named "old guys" and I have only been playing there for months now.