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My house has been raided multiple times by local police (Victim of a senseless drug war). They have never let me get dressed. I have always assumed it was a saf

My house has been raided multiple times by local police (Victim of a senseless drug war). They have never let me get dressed. I have always assumed it was a safety issue. How do they know, I'm going to actually get dressed and not pull out a firearm or push a hidden button to blow us all up. Not excusing their actions, but this seems to be the norm.

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airstrike 4y ago
Maybe they can grab your clothes for you from your closet? Surely there's got to be some creative way to allow a human to get dressed And if said human is like the Riddler and has rigged the place to blow should the wrong t-shirt be picked up, well then that's called the risk of being a law enforcement field agent... it's in the job description
- cyberlurker 4y ago
  At marathons they have those solar blankets. Law enforcement could easily provide clothing or blankets for those being raided. Everyone deserves dignity imo, even potentially guilty people. No risk involved.
  - airstrike 4y ago
    That would solve the problem of feeling cold but not the human dignity issue in someone being arrested (and possibly being brought in for questioning) in their underwear
tpl 4y ago
Then they should guard you while you get dressed. The risk of getting shot is rather low for most cases and people deserve dignity. They are only accused of a crime not guilty.
- johncessna 4y ago
  No. As a citizen, I don't want some cop jumpy on fear and adrenaline holding me at gun point waiting to see if I'm going to pull a snub nose out of my jeans pocket. As a cop, I don't want to find out if someone putting on their pants is going to shot me or my partner in that split second when they appear to lose balance and fall into the night stand that has a gun under the pile of clothes.
  - omniglottal 4y ago
    As a citizen, I recognize cops are already twitchy and jumpy anyway, and they kill more people in the US than there are murders. Maybe your boundless excuse for ever-increasing excessive behavior is really no excuse. "Innocent until proven guilty" is a basis we simply cannot lose. It means something. Once it stops meaning treatment of citizens with dignity, I don't know how you can expect that citizens won't retaliate and escalate the situation. Most now fear cops unjustly invading their home more than criminals. They, though innocent, will defend tgeirself against assault. Do the math.
    - Vt71fcAqt7 4y ago
      >and they kill more people in the US than there are murders Do you have any source for this absurd claim? The data show otherwise: >In 2019, the estimated number of murders in the nation was 16,425.[0] and police was about 1,000 for the same year.[1] [0]https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/murder https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-... [1]https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-de...
throwawaysleep 4y ago
Aka a drug dealer?
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giantg2 4y ago
The very simple and common sense approach is that they provide you with a bath robe, medical gown, etc, all without even uncuffing you.
idontpost 4y ago

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airstrike 4y ago

Maybe they can grab your clothes for you from your closet? Surely there's got to be some creative way to allow a human to get dressed And if said human is like the Riddler and has rigged the place to blow should the wrong t-shirt be picked up, well then that's called the risk of being a law enforcement field agent... it's in the job description

cyberlurker 4y ago
At marathons they have those solar blankets. Law enforcement could easily provide clothing or blankets for those being raided. Everyone deserves dignity imo, even potentially guilty people. No risk involved.
- airstrike 4y ago
  That would solve the problem of feeling cold but not the human dignity issue in someone being arrested (and possibly being brought in for questioning) in their underwear

tpl 4y ago

Then they should guard you while you get dressed. The risk of getting shot is rather low for most cases and people deserve dignity. They are only accused of a crime not guilty.

johncessna 4y ago
No. As a citizen, I don't want some cop jumpy on fear and adrenaline holding me at gun point waiting to see if I'm going to pull a snub nose out of my jeans pocket. As a cop, I don't want to find out if someone putting on their pants is going to shot me or my partner in that split second when they appear to lose balance and fall into the night stand that has a gun under the pile of clothes.
- omniglottal 4y ago
  As a citizen, I recognize cops are already twitchy and jumpy anyway, and they kill more people in the US than there are murders. Maybe your boundless excuse for ever-increasing excessive behavior is really no excuse. "Innocent until proven guilty" is a basis we simply cannot lose. It means something. Once it stops meaning treatment of citizens with dignity, I don't know how you can expect that citizens won't retaliate and escalate the situation. Most now fear cops unjustly invading their home more than criminals. They, though innocent, will defend tgeirself against assault. Do the math.
  - Vt71fcAqt7 4y ago
    >and they kill more people in the US than there are murders Do you have any source for this absurd claim? The data show otherwise: >In 2019, the estimated number of murders in the nation was 16,425.[0] and police was about 1,000 for the same year.[1] [0]https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/murder https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-... [1]https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-de...

throwawaysleep 4y ago

Aka a drug dealer?

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giantg2 4y ago

The very simple and common sense approach is that they provide you with a bath robe, medical gown, etc, all without even uncuffing you.

idontpost 4y ago