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...classic wartime espionage. Are we at war? When did it start? When will it end?

whatshisface 4y ago
The global war on terror has been ongoing for 21 years and began on the 15th of September, 2001. It will end when there are no more terrorists or when voters decide to reclassify terrorism as a criminal issue again. In the interim, the government has granted itself additional war powers and suspended certain rights.
- jessaustin 4y ago
  One struggles to imagine how "terrorists" will take advantage of grainy pictures of Area 51. Perhaps now that TFA has informed them of its existence, they'll leave an IED outside the front gate?
closeparen 4y ago
The United States is not at war with Russia. Still, Russians who come here under false pretenses for the purpose of reporting to the GRU on American business and academia - even from civilian positions with no access to classified information - are clearly spies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program
- jessaustin 4y ago
  The people at your link didn't have anything to do with Area 51. The guy in TFA doesn't have anything to do with Russians or any other war-media-appointed "enemies". We in USA ourselves have a long history of spying on (and interfering in the internal matters of) every other nation. We're not at war with anyone who could gain any advantage from information about Area 51. If we were to go to war with Russia, it would benefit no one but already-incredibly-wealthy USA armaments manufacturers. Also it would probably result in the extinction of humanity in nuclear war. "Plainly visible reality" is not secret, by definition. Somehow you have claimed that a war we're not fighting with people who couldn't benefit from knowledge of information that isn't secret justifies charging this guy with espionage. One would marvel that anyone could be so incoherent, except this is the typical result of consuming American corporate war media content.

The global war on terror has been ongoing for 21 years and began on the 15th of September, 2001. It will end when there are no more terrorists or when voters decide to reclassify terrorism as a criminal issue again. In the interim, the government has granted itself additional war powers and suspended certain rights.

jessaustin 4y ago
One struggles to imagine how "terrorists" will take advantage of grainy pictures of Area 51. Perhaps now that TFA has informed them of its existence, they'll leave an IED outside the front gate?

closeparen 4y ago

The United States is not at war with Russia. Still, Russians who come here under false pretenses for the purpose of reporting to the GRU on American business and academia - even from civilian positions with no access to classified information - are clearly spies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program

jessaustin 4y ago
The people at your link didn't have anything to do with Area 51. The guy in TFA doesn't have anything to do with Russians or any other war-media-appointed "enemies". We in USA ourselves have a long history of spying on (and interfering in the internal matters of) every other nation. We're not at war with anyone who could gain any advantage from information about Area 51. If we were to go to war with Russia, it would benefit no one but already-incredibly-wealthy USA armaments manufacturers. Also it would probably result in the extinction of humanity in nuclear war. "Plainly visible reality" is not secret, by definition. Somehow you have claimed that a war we're not fighting with people who couldn't benefit from knowledge of information that isn't secret justifies charging this guy with espionage. One would marvel that anyone could be so incoherent, except this is the typical result of consuming American corporate war media content.