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>email to 200 recipients they can all store it On discord there are no 200 individual "they" storing it. It's stored by discord. (Or I guess people could be

>email to 200 recipients they can all store it On discord there are no 200 individual "they" storing it. It's stored by discord. (Or I guess people could be manually logging their own chats, but that's not the issue at hand here.) At first pass it might sound like some minor technical squabble about implementation details, but there is intentionality in design decisions. The legal system can not be blind to those. Discord chose a design that put them in control of the data. I'm not saying the highly centralized nature of their design is bad, wrong, or wasn't the best choice for the product they want to build. What I am saying is that when the legal system looks at the nature of a product, it has to look beyond what's presented in the pretty UI and marketing materials. It will look at the business' processes too.

namdnay 4y ago
But that’s the same for gmail. If I send a mail to 200 gmail contacts, that mail doesn’t disappear when I delete my account
- pessimizer 4y ago
  But it does disappear when all 201 of you delete your accounts.
- dogleash 4y ago
  True. This is why I mentioned intentionality in design. The design of email means there is an argument for the legal system that gmail is a very very popular post office. That email is a system wherein users have disparate storage areas for receiving/archiving emails, and gmail is one of many organizations that offers users the service of managing their individualized storage area on their behalf. In the service that is email, there is nothing inherently special about gmail. In the service that is discord, discord is discord.
  - doublerabbit 4y ago
    I would argue that discord and IRC, are email too. It's just the protocol of communication dictates. They all carry data to a username@somewhere; whether it a tld, username or id. IRC enables Text & Attachments in text form (ie links) Email Enables Attachments in visual (html emails) Discord Enables Voice, Text and Attachments (Asynchronous sockets) That's all it is. Present a Video, Picture, Voice to your visitor and you've got a new product. Just as facebook,twitter,myspace have been.
    - sangnoir 4y ago
      > I would argue that discord and IRC, are email too. It's just the protocol of communication dictates. Assuming all this is correct, if a GMail user requests their account to be deleted, Google should delete that data.

namdnay 4y ago

But that’s the same for gmail. If I send a mail to 200 gmail contacts, that mail doesn’t disappear when I delete my account

pessimizer 4y ago
But it does disappear when all 201 of you delete your accounts.
dogleash 4y ago
True. This is why I mentioned intentionality in design. The design of email means there is an argument for the legal system that gmail is a very very popular post office. That email is a system wherein users have disparate storage areas for receiving/archiving emails, and gmail is one of many organizations that offers users the service of managing their individualized storage area on their behalf. In the service that is email, there is nothing inherently special about gmail. In the service that is discord, discord is discord.
- doublerabbit 4y ago
  I would argue that discord and IRC, are email too. It's just the protocol of communication dictates. They all carry data to a username@somewhere; whether it a tld, username or id. IRC enables Text & Attachments in text form (ie links) Email Enables Attachments in visual (html emails) Discord Enables Voice, Text and Attachments (Asynchronous sockets) That's all it is. Present a Video, Picture, Voice to your visitor and you've got a new product. Just as facebook,twitter,myspace have been.
  - sangnoir 4y ago
    > I would argue that discord and IRC, are email too. It's just the protocol of communication dictates. Assuming all this is correct, if a GMail user requests their account to be deleted, Google should delete that data.