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You can add https://ossia.io https://ossia.io which (as its author) I believe is fairly unique in combining node-based and timeline directly in the same UI :)

moklick 4y ago
woow! This is so good! Just added it.
- jcelerier 4y ago
  thanks for adding it! I find so interesting in terms of how we market it that you added it to the "3D & visuals" category, when it had audio features before even being able to display anything haha
  - moklick 4y ago
    hehe good point :D I'll add it to audio
    - jcelerier 4y ago
      Ah but it's interesting, because it means that this is what people think about first when looking the website so we may have to rework it a bit
whizzter 4y ago
It looks like an interesting approach, gonna take a deeper peek at it. Any particular reason for the player part to be LGPL rather than something more permissive? Don't see the player portions being badly appropriated or fork-extended commercially w/o the main tool that definetly should remain GPL:ed. (I'm still active in the demoscene doing 64k's where exe-compression usually works with single exe's)
- jcelerier 4y ago
  If it was up to me it'd actually be at least GPLv3 and likely AGPL haha but many were involved in licensing choices and this is where the common ground landed. And the player is what actually contains most of the interesting algorithmic "meat" ; a company could build a custom DAW on top of it without much trouble for instance.
  - whizzter 4y ago
    Hmm, maybe you're right. I was mostly considering the parts needed for me (linear-replay) but I guess when you have OSC,Midi and all other kinds of integrations there's a lot more integration code weight. Though from experience with my own tools, I suspect that in the end the UI code for the tool will outweight most other parts in the end.
    - jcelerier 4y ago
      Yes, there's definitely more UI code (roughly 20% of the total is engine code). But it's also a much, much easier code to write than the engine code which has to be threadsafe, has to perform no allocations as far as is possible, comes with various graph algorithms, etc
- royjacobs 4y ago
  At least you don't have to write your own DOS extenders nowadays :)
  - whizzter 4y ago
    Haha, spilling my old dirty secrets eh ;D

moklick 4y ago

woow! This is so good! Just added it.

jcelerier 4y ago
thanks for adding it! I find so interesting in terms of how we market it that you added it to the "3D & visuals" category, when it had audio features before even being able to display anything haha
- moklick 4y ago
  hehe good point :D I'll add it to audio
  - jcelerier 4y ago
    Ah but it's interesting, because it means that this is what people think about first when looking the website so we may have to rework it a bit

whizzter 4y ago

It looks like an interesting approach, gonna take a deeper peek at it. Any particular reason for the player part to be LGPL rather than something more permissive? Don't see the player portions being badly appropriated or fork-extended commercially w/o the main tool that definetly should remain GPL:ed. (I'm still active in the demoscene doing 64k's where exe-compression usually works with single exe's)

jcelerier 4y ago
If it was up to me it'd actually be at least GPLv3 and likely AGPL haha but many were involved in licensing choices and this is where the common ground landed. And the player is what actually contains most of the interesting algorithmic "meat" ; a company could build a custom DAW on top of it without much trouble for instance.
- whizzter 4y ago
  Hmm, maybe you're right. I was mostly considering the parts needed for me (linear-replay) but I guess when you have OSC,Midi and all other kinds of integrations there's a lot more integration code weight. Though from experience with my own tools, I suspect that in the end the UI code for the tool will outweight most other parts in the end.
  - jcelerier 4y ago
    Yes, there's definitely more UI code (roughly 20% of the total is engine code). But it's also a much, much easier code to write than the engine code which has to be threadsafe, has to perform no allocations as far as is possible, comes with various graph algorithms, etc
royjacobs 4y ago
At least you don't have to write your own DOS extenders nowadays :)
- whizzter 4y ago
  Haha, spilling my old dirty secrets eh ;D