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The Z Library is still alive, as a TOR Hidden Service: http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52fad.onion/ http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46yt

by hggh 4y ago

The Z Library is still alive, as a TOR Hidden Service: http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52fad.onion/ http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52...

dredmorbius 4y ago
How long that remains the case with at least two of its principals arrested may be somewhat uncertain. Any present operator(s) and site(s) would have to remain outside the reach of US or other Western jurisdiction and extradition treaties.
- atyppo 4y ago
  They were arrested on the 3rd, not today. It's just that the indictment was unsealed today.
  - dredmorbius 4y ago
    My point remains.
- franga2000 4y ago
  On Tor, the location of the the servers and the identities of the operators are protected. No way for the feds to find them even if both are well within their jurisdiction. Unless the operators make a big mistake, the site should stay up and even if it goes down, there are plenty of other pirates around the world with full copies of the data that could replace the site.
  - dredmorbius 4y ago
    The systems still must exist somewhere in physical space, connected to a public IP network. They require maintainers to continue operating. Bills must be paid. At some point, one or more of these individual SPOF requirements will fail, at which point the service will have failed. There may be other degrading failures prior to this if the system is complex: <https://how.complexsystems.fail/ https://how.complexsystems.fail/> I'm ... disappointed that it seems necessary to point this out explicitly.
    - franga2000 4y ago
      How is that in any way conflicting with what I wrote? Of course the servers need maintenance and all of that - Tor is what allows the people doing that maintenance and funding to stay outside the reach of law enforcement even if they are on US soil.
      - dredmorbius 4y ago
        That presumes the adminstrators exist, given that the site's two principals have been arrested. I refer you again to my initial reply: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33647659 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33647659> Unless you're privy to other information.
        franga2000 4y ago
        > Any present operator(s) and site(s) would have to remain outside the reach of US or other Western jurisdiction and extradition treaties. Maybe I misunderstood. I thought this was referring to the scenario where more administrators did exist and in such a scenario, they could live two blocks away from the FBI headquarters and it wouldn't make a difference.
dpedu 4y ago
There is also a ~28TB torrent with ~6M books within it. https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/ymiwzs/zlibrary_isnt_really_gone_but_that_maybe_up_to_you/ https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/ymiwzs/zlibrar...

by hggh 4y ago

The Z Library is still alive, as a TOR Hidden Service: http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52fad.onion/ http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52...

dredmorbius 4y ago

How long that remains the case with at least two of its principals arrested may be somewhat uncertain. Any present operator(s) and site(s) would have to remain outside the reach of US or other Western jurisdiction and extradition treaties.

atyppo 4y ago
They were arrested on the 3rd, not today. It's just that the indictment was unsealed today.
- dredmorbius 4y ago
  My point remains.
franga2000 4y ago
On Tor, the location of the the servers and the identities of the operators are protected. No way for the feds to find them even if both are well within their jurisdiction. Unless the operators make a big mistake, the site should stay up and even if it goes down, there are plenty of other pirates around the world with full copies of the data that could replace the site.
- dredmorbius 4y ago
  The systems still must exist somewhere in physical space, connected to a public IP network. They require maintainers to continue operating. Bills must be paid. At some point, one or more of these individual SPOF requirements will fail, at which point the service will have failed. There may be other degrading failures prior to this if the system is complex: <https://how.complexsystems.fail/ https://how.complexsystems.fail/> I'm ... disappointed that it seems necessary to point this out explicitly.
  - franga2000 4y ago
    How is that in any way conflicting with what I wrote? Of course the servers need maintenance and all of that - Tor is what allows the people doing that maintenance and funding to stay outside the reach of law enforcement even if they are on US soil.
    - dredmorbius 4y ago
      That presumes the adminstrators exist, given that the site's two principals have been arrested. I refer you again to my initial reply: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33647659 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33647659> Unless you're privy to other information.
      - franga2000 4y ago
        > Any present operator(s) and site(s) would have to remain outside the reach of US or other Western jurisdiction and extradition treaties. Maybe I misunderstood. I thought this was referring to the scenario where more administrators did exist and in such a scenario, they could live two blocks away from the FBI headquarters and it wouldn't make a difference.

dpedu 4y ago

There is also a ~28TB torrent with ~6M books within it. https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/ymiwzs/zlibrary_isnt_really_gone_but_that_maybe_up_to_you/ https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/ymiwzs/zlibrar...