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If only things were generally so simple. While I'm all for more possible causes that are more easily treated, I’d hardly call this convincing evidence that all

by mtsr 4y ago

If only things were generally so simple. While I'm all for more possible causes that are more easily treated, I’d hardly call this convincing evidence that all we need to treat is zinc deficiencies. But time will tell, as I hope these kinds of research continue.

FollowingTheDao 4y ago
But did you try it????
- Jensson 4y ago
  Yes, didn't work, stop acting like an asshole. It is very common to check for deficiencies, if people with ADHD had it then likely they wouldn't be prescribed meds before the deficiency is fixed in the first place, you questioning others like this is just making their life worse.
  - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
    One, I do not beleive you. Two, If you did, how much did you take? And what type? Pyridoxine or Pyridoxal-Phosphate? For how long? Were you tested for a B6 defieicny, high homocysteine? Three, it is in NO WAY common for deficiencies to be tested for mood disorders and even less common for a doctor nevermind a psychiatrist to do anything about it. And calling me an asshole when I am advocating for better health is making everyone's life worse. I do not mind if people choose to take stimulants, but they are not being advised that there are other options.
    - Jensson 4y ago
      > One, I do not beleive you. That makes you an asshole. > Three, it is in NO WAY common for deficiencies to be tested for mood disorders and even less common for a doctor nevermind a psychiatrist to do anything about it. Why do you believe this? It is easy and cheap to do a blood test for deficiencies, I have done that many time and they found I lacked nothing. Do you have any evidence it isn't common to check for deficiencies, because to me it seems like that is one of the first thing they check.
      - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
        > Why do you believe this? Because I have worked with health care professionals for 20 years and they do not test for nutritional deficiencies unless you ask/beg them to. This is even more true with psychiatrists. I am advocating right now for a woman with a serum B6 deficiency that her doctor will not address. She has an actual serum B6 deficiency and anemia and depression and her dopctor thinks it is not importnat. That is why. > It is easy and cheap to do a blood test for deficiencies, I have done that many time and they found I lacked nothing. There are deficiencies and functional deficiencies. Plus there is serum B6 and RBC B6. Have you had your RBC B6 tested? Nope. And Homocysteine levels will reveal more than serum B6. And I do not believe you because you did not answer "how much did you take? And what type? Pyridoxine or Pyridoxal-Phosphate? For how long? Were you tested for a B6 defieicny, high homocysteine?"
        Jensson 4y ago
        The pills says just vitamin B6, 1.4mg, more than a year. For zinc I eat way more than I need since I eat mostly vegetarian and legumes contains plenty of it. Then reason you are an asshole is that you are asking questions that takes a lot of work to answer since most wont know the answer to them on the spot. That is a very common tactic when you try to push your pet theory on others, but you should know that nobody thinks you won the argument when you do that they will just see you as an asshole. Even if you are doing it to be nice, you will be seen as an asshole, so please stop doing that. Edit: Another part of the label says its this, didn't notice it at first: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Pyridoxine-hydrochloride https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Pyridoxine-hydroch...
        FollowingTheDao 4y ago
        THANK YOU for answering. See, this is what I mean. 1.4mg? That is nothing. The dose that use in testing are 50 to 100mg. And you should be taking P5P. People I know take 30 - 60mg of P5P to feel the effects. You were not taking high dose B6, just the RDA, and that will not do anything. And it will not correct a deficiency. You think it takes a lot of work to answer? What about all the work I do looking into this and asking? For who? For you. Instead of calling me an asshole understand that I am helping you, for free, unlike your doctors. So you cannot say taking B6 did not work for you.

by mtsr 4y ago

FollowingTheDao 4y ago

But did you try it????

Jensson 4y ago
Yes, didn't work, stop acting like an asshole. It is very common to check for deficiencies, if people with ADHD had it then likely they wouldn't be prescribed meds before the deficiency is fixed in the first place, you questioning others like this is just making their life worse.
- FollowingTheDao 4y ago
  One, I do not beleive you. Two, If you did, how much did you take? And what type? Pyridoxine or Pyridoxal-Phosphate? For how long? Were you tested for a B6 defieicny, high homocysteine? Three, it is in NO WAY common for deficiencies to be tested for mood disorders and even less common for a doctor nevermind a psychiatrist to do anything about it. And calling me an asshole when I am advocating for better health is making everyone's life worse. I do not mind if people choose to take stimulants, but they are not being advised that there are other options.
  - Jensson 4y ago
    > One, I do not beleive you. That makes you an asshole. > Three, it is in NO WAY common for deficiencies to be tested for mood disorders and even less common for a doctor nevermind a psychiatrist to do anything about it. Why do you believe this? It is easy and cheap to do a blood test for deficiencies, I have done that many time and they found I lacked nothing. Do you have any evidence it isn't common to check for deficiencies, because to me it seems like that is one of the first thing they check.
    - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
      > Why do you believe this? Because I have worked with health care professionals for 20 years and they do not test for nutritional deficiencies unless you ask/beg them to. This is even more true with psychiatrists. I am advocating right now for a woman with a serum B6 deficiency that her doctor will not address. She has an actual serum B6 deficiency and anemia and depression and her dopctor thinks it is not importnat. That is why. > It is easy and cheap to do a blood test for deficiencies, I have done that many time and they found I lacked nothing. There are deficiencies and functional deficiencies. Plus there is serum B6 and RBC B6. Have you had your RBC B6 tested? Nope. And Homocysteine levels will reveal more than serum B6. And I do not believe you because you did not answer "how much did you take? And what type? Pyridoxine or Pyridoxal-Phosphate? For how long? Were you tested for a B6 defieicny, high homocysteine?"
      - Jensson 4y ago
        The pills says just vitamin B6, 1.4mg, more than a year. For zinc I eat way more than I need since I eat mostly vegetarian and legumes contains plenty of it. Then reason you are an asshole is that you are asking questions that takes a lot of work to answer since most wont know the answer to them on the spot. That is a very common tactic when you try to push your pet theory on others, but you should know that nobody thinks you won the argument when you do that they will just see you as an asshole. Even if you are doing it to be nice, you will be seen as an asshole, so please stop doing that. Edit: Another part of the label says its this, didn't notice it at first: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Pyridoxine-hydrochloride https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Pyridoxine-hydroch...
        FollowingTheDao 4y ago
        THANK YOU for answering. See, this is what I mean. 1.4mg? That is nothing. The dose that use in testing are 50 to 100mg. And you should be taking P5P. People I know take 30 - 60mg of P5P to feel the effects. You were not taking high dose B6, just the RDA, and that will not do anything. And it will not correct a deficiency. You think it takes a lot of work to answer? What about all the work I do looking into this and asking? For who? For you. Instead of calling me an asshole understand that I am helping you, for free, unlike your doctors. So you cannot say taking B6 did not work for you.